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1st Street Lofts Rant/recap

Started by cannon_fodder, August 01, 2014, 11:28:12 AM

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SXSW

I didn't realize S&J closed?  I liked that place but hadn't been back in awhile..  Anyone know what will replace it?
 

Townsend

I'll be excited to see the work finally get started...I walk by it at least twice a day during work days.

I'll let you know if they discover that Sager did bad things...


cannon_fodder

I'm still surprised he uses the "we removed every brick" line. I'm no mason, but I've never seen that. I've seen bricks be regrouted or repointed, but I don't think I've ever seen or heard of a building having all the bricks pulled off and redone.  Anyone more knowledgeable than I?

Hopefully this article isn't another puff piece and it actually gets moving. Ross Group gets stuff done. As the Edge Wraps up, resources likely shift over.
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Vision 2025

Quote from: cannon_fodder on July 08, 2016, 12:28:28 PM
I'm still surprised he uses the "we removed every brick" line. I'm no mason, but I've never seen that. I've seen bricks be regrouted or repointed, but I don't think I've ever seen or heard of a building having all the bricks pulled off and redone.  Anyone more knowledgeable than I?

Hopefully this article isn't another puff piece and it actually gets moving. Ross Group gets stuff done. As the Edge Wraps up, resources likely shift over.
I'm not defending Mr. Sager in any way but yes I have had projects where that required removal of the brick that was cleaned and then re-installed or even required complete demolition as a result.  This was required when there is little or no masonry ties to the structure and or when poor or weak mortar was used of developed over time as can be the case in the Tulsa area with historic structures which were built prior to Tulsa receiving quality water from the Spavinaw system, same issue as with the original portion of the 11th Street Bridge, chloride contamination (Tulsa's original water supply was the Arkansas River which at times contains dissolved chlorides) can happen in masonry joints as well.
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DowntownDan

Will they please replace the "Sager" nameplate?  They can put literally anything else in there.  "Ross" maybe? 

rdj

Quote from: DowntownDan on July 10, 2016, 12:23:07 PM
Will they please replace the "Sager" nameplate?  They can put literally anything else in there.  "Ross" maybe? 

I think Citizens of Tulsa would be fitting, considered the citizens have been the most patient real estate investor/lender known to man.
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Townsend

Quote from: rdj on July 11, 2016, 11:25:15 AM
I think Citizens of Tulsa would be fitting, considered the citizens have been the most patient real estate investor/lender known to man.

"Townsend et al" would be fine

AquaMan

Just replace the S with an L and put in a brew pub. Or just the original construction date.
onward...through the fog

dsjeffries

QuoteMichael Sager began the original effort in 2007 to renovate the historic Jacobs Hotel into a 19-unit apartment building.

How about JACOBS, since that's what it was originally called?
Change never happened because people were happy with the status quo.


Townsend

Windows have been open and there have been 4 or 5 workers visible in and on the building.

Not exactly an army of workers getting things done but that's 4 or 5 more workers than I've seen in a long time.

DowntownDan

From my office I've been able to see over the last month or so they have repaired the roof which had a tarp over parts of it for well over a year. I've seen a crane nearby recently supplying materials through the windows on the west side.  Things have been happening.

cannon_fodder

Per the TDA Executive Report for February:

I. First Street Lofts
310 East 1st Street
• Electrical and plumbing rough-in completed throughout the building
• All wall framing is completed
• One side of drywall continues on the 2nd and 3rd floors
• All windows have been installed throughout building
• Steel structure will be set for a large interior staircase that will go from floors 1st
through 4th
• Began utility work in the right-of-way

http://www.tulsadevelopmentauthority.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Executive-Director-Report-10.pdf
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Conan71

Quote from: cannon_fodder on February 24, 2017, 09:28:42 AM
Per the TDA Executive Report for February:

I. First Street Lofts
310 East 1st Street
• Electrical and plumbing rough-in completed throughout the building
• All wall framing is completed
• One side of drywall continues on the 2nd and 3rd floors
• All windows have been installed throughout building
• Steel structure will be set for a large interior staircase that will go from floors 1st
through 4th
• Began utility work in the right-of-way

http://www.tulsadevelopmentauthority.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Executive-Director-Report-10.pdf

Go Ross Group!!!
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#119
In that this project appears to be on track, lets start a new thread to focus on where it is going instead of continuing a discussion of where it has been.

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