OKC tops the charts again

[sgrizzle]

#5 in the nation for most gang-infested city

http://kfor.com/2014/08/04/oklahoma-city-makes-most-gang-infested-cities-in-america-list/

[Breadburner]

Concrete wasteland.....

[TheArtist]

I got another one for ya.  OKC is the largest city in the US with the worst transit (least trips per capita).  Tulsa is the second largest city in the US with the worst transit system.  

Scroll down the list to see where we rank among 299 urbanized areas. (actually don't bother with scrolling down, may take too long, just go straight to the bottom and then start looking)

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/how-your-citys-public-transit-stacks-up/

[Townsend]

Just give these things a few more days.

Our state executive and legislative branches must be working day and night to solve them.

Sit tight.

[guido911]

I got another one for ya.  OKC is the largest city in the US with the worst transit (least trips per capita).  Tulsa is the second largest city in the US with the worst transit system.  

Scroll down the list to see where we rank among 299 urbanized areas. (actually don't bother with scrolling down, may take too long, just go straight to the bottom and then start looking)

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/how-your-citys-public-transit-stacks-up/

My transit is fine. I get into a car, and move. Is (mass) transit really that important nowadays? Or is it more about getting folks to a particular are in a city?

[TheArtist]

My transit is fine. I get into a car, and move. Is (mass) transit really that important nowadays? Or is it more about getting folks to a particular are in a city?

Frankly I think it's about being "fair and balanced".  If you have pedestrian friendly development, then transit can become the most efficient option.  Right now that's illegal, the government is "telling people what to do" with their property, pushing for auto oriented development and automobiles.  I am not even saying that government should fund mass transit. 

The auto only works well for you because of the zoning and spending that takes place to make it that way. There is a reason for instance that some people are still pushing back on the Form Based Codes in the Pearl District and asking for minimum parking requirements.

What works for one form, makes it efficient and easy to use, can hurt the other. 

For those who want a different choice, the laws currently make it illegal.

The more urban and dense an area becomes then transit becomes more efficient, pedestrian development can be more enjoyable and... human.  Regardless, I think people should have the right to more choices on how they want to live, and get around, not be pushed to have all their eggs in one basket.  More freedom of choice, opportunity, and more free market doing its thing and less government "picking and choosing winners and losers", whenever you can.  Or if your going to have "intervention" then make it more balanced.  Zone for and spend for pedestrian/transit friendly development just as you do for auto oriented development now.  Or get out of the way and let the free market decide.  I am fine with either way.                       

[Red Arrow]

My transit is fine. I get into a car, and move. Is (mass) transit really that important nowadays? Or is it more about getting folks to a particular are in a city?

Your transit would be a lot easier if other folks could use mass transit.  Think 111th & Memorial.

[guido911]

Your transit would be a lot easier if other folks could use mass transit.  Think 111th & Memorial.

You're right. Dammed you private car owners!!! (shaking fists at sky).

[guido911]

Frankly I think it's about being "fair and balanced".  If you have pedestrian friendly development, then transit can become the most efficient option.  Right now that's illegal, the government is "telling people what to do" with their property, pushing for auto oriented development and automobiles.  I am not even saying that government should fund mass transit. 

The auto only works well for you because of the zoning and spending that takes place to make it that way. There is a reason for instance that some people are still pushing back on the Form Based Codes in the Pearl District and asking for minimum parking requirements.

What works for one form, makes it efficient and easy to use, can hurt the other. 

For those who want a different choice, the laws currently make it illegal.

The more urban and dense an area becomes then transit becomes more efficient, pedestrian development can be more enjoyable and... human.  Regardless, I think people should have the right to more choices on how they want to live, and get around, not be pushed to have all their eggs in one basket.  More freedom of choice, opportunity, and more free market doing its thing and less government "picking and choosing winners and losers", whenever you can.  Or if your going to have "intervention" then make it more balanced.  Zone for and spend for pedestrian/transit friendly development just as you do for auto oriented development now.  Or get out of the way and let the free market decide.  I am fine with either way.                       

I just think this sort of thinking is out of date, especially for this city. There are shopping, entertainment, and medical "districts" throughout the city. People just do not need mass transit to reach downtown or "restaurant row" to get to something since these places are close. And even if there is a demand, is it to the point that spending tax payer money on it makes financial sense. Now, if you are a "greenie", I got nothing for you. 

[TheArtist]

I just think this sort of thinking is out of date, especially for this city. There are shopping, entertainment, and medical "districts" throughout the city. People just do not need mass transit to reach downtown or "restaurant row" to get to something since these places are close. And even if there is a demand, is it to the point that spending tax payer money on it makes financial sense. Now, if you are a "greenie", I got nothing for you. 

Don't think you read my post.

[sauerkraut]

I have heard from  a person who lives in OKC that they plan to build 3 more tall skyscrapers in downtown OKC and the city is gowing fast. The unemployment rate is very low, one of the lowest in the nation.

[Hoss]

I have heard from  a person who lives in OKC that they plan to build 3 more tall skyscrapers in downtown OKC and the city is gowing fast. The unemployment rate is very low, one of the lowest in the nation.

I was there all day yesterday.  It still sucks.

[Conan71]

I was there all day yesterday.  It still sucks.

So glad MC ended up moving here.  It's a depressing bunch of sprawl. 

[Hoss]

So glad MC ended up moving here.  It's a depressing bunch of sprawl. 

Stayed in Bethel Acres Wednesday before our Thursday conference (coworker has family there with extra guest rooms) and was amazed how far out I saw the OKC city limits sign when we were on I-40.  You're practically still in Shawnee.

And what is that erector set looking thing on I-40 past the Robinson exit?

[guido911]

So glad MC ended up moving here.  It's a depressing bunch of sprawl. 

I hate downtown OKC. That is all.