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What about the volcano in Iceland? Will that affect global/man made whatever its called?

Actually the volcano action is also man-made.  Too many people moving around on the Tectonic Plates causes them to move and make heat due to the friction among the plates.

[guido911]

Actually the volcano action is also man-made.  Too many people moving around on the Tectonic Plates causes them to move and make heat due to the friction among the plates.

[sauerkraut]

No.  And now you are right back where you normally are....it's YOU that says "global warming"....people that know anything call it what it is - "climate change".

That is totally crazy-- The Earths climate is always changing and it will keep changing with cold peroids and warm peroids. What exactly is "climate change" and what is the current climate changing into?  The current climate must be changing from what it is now into something else or they would not be using the word "changing".  I got a good question- what exactly is Earths normal temp supposed to be anyhow? The planet is 4.5 Billion years old what temp is normal for that time frame? 1,000 years ago the Vikings lived on Greenland when it was warmer then it is today  then it  got cold and the Vikings had to flee Greenland as ice moved in. The Earths climate is always changing. The new word is becoming "Climate Disruption" caused by man but of course. In 2005 they said  hurricanes like Katrina are caused by global warming- for the past 10 years we had no  big hurricanes what happened? Computer models goof up? Garbage in & garbage out.

[sauerkraut]

Actually the volcano action is also man-made.  Too many people moving around on the Tectonic Plates causes them to move and make heat due to the friction among the plates.

They even blame Earth quakes on "global warming" or is it "Climate Change"? No wait it's "Climate Disruption"! The warming planet expands the tectonic plates causing Earth quakes, but wait the tectonic plates are already  warm anyhow. Where's Al Gore when ya need him to 'splain this.

[heironymouspasparagus]

That is totally crazy-- The Earths climate is always changing and it will keep changing with cold peroids and warm peroids. What exactly is "climate change" and what is the current climate changing into?  The current climate must be changing from what it is now into something else or they would not be using the word "changing".  I got a good question- what exactly is Earths normal temp supposed to be anyhow? The planet is 4.5 Billion years old what temp is normal for that time frame? 1,000 years ago the Vikings lived on Greenland when it was warmer then it is today  then it  got cold and the Vikings had to flee Greenland as ice moved in. The Earths climate is always changing. The new word is becoming "Climate Disruption" caused by man but of course. In 2005 they said  hurricanes like Katrina are caused by global warming- for the past 10 years we had no  big hurricanes what happened? Computer models goof up? Garbage in & garbage out.

Whew!!  How many people are you really?   This post made sense.  Are you sauer #3 today?


The Vostok ice cores show the temps and CO2 for the last 400,000 years or so.  The green one is particularly interesting with a rather large change in CO2 over those 400,000 years.  From 200 ppm to 280 ppm.  This would be pretty big in the overall scheme of scheme of things, and encompasses a time when there were 4 ice ages.  Coincidence?  No.  We are in the current interglacial period. 

Today we are at 400 ppm of CO2.  Double the lows over the 400,000 years.  And about 50% higher than the highs.  That is different.  That is man made.  That effect for some time into the future is unknown.  That is what should be cause for concern.

The big question is - and there sure ain't no answer yet - how do the inter-glacial times end and how quickly?  In the meantime, you're gonna need some more insulation in the attic, and some hurricane ties on the roof trusses!

[sauerkraut]

It's not "Climate Change"  it's "Climate Hoax"...  As for global warming the planet has not warmed at all for the past 17+ years according to NOAA- in fact the global temp has dropped- yet the global warming train keeps going, the hoax has to be kept alive and they call that science. Global warming is not really about science anyhow it's a political movement. The winter of 2014 was so severe that the great  lakes totally froze solid- it takes a very cold winter to do that. Where is that warming? In the early 1990's they said by the year 2000 NY would be under water from the melting polar ice. Never happened, no follow ups, they know people would forget about that prediction by the time 2000 rolled around. Get ready people Obama plans some drastic climate change  executive orders meaning  higher electric bills and oil prices all in the name of a hoax.

[Hoss]

It's not "Climate Change"  it's "Climate Hoax"...  As for global warming the planet has not warmed at all for the past 17+ years according to NOAA- in fact the global temp has dropped- yet the global warming train keeps going, the hoax has to be kept alive and they call that science. Global warming is not really about science anyhow it's a political movement. The winter of 2014 was so severe that the great  lakes totally froze solid- it takes a very cold winter to do that. Where is that warming? In the early 1990's they said by the year 2000 NY would be under water from the melting polar ice. Never happened, no follow ups, they know people would forget about that prediction by the time 2000 rolled around. Get ready people Obama plans some drastic climate change  executive orders meaning  higher electric bills and oil prices all in the name of a hoax.

And I'm guessing you still balance your checkbook with an abacus.  And tell time with a sundial.

I hope they have both at the library.

[guido911]

Back to more school lunch stuff. Kids can be creative, but I wonder of they know its racist to blame Moochelle for what they are receiving.

http://www.vocativ.com/culture/health-culture/healthy-school-lunch/#!bLiNeY


Here's a video from that link.

[TheArtist]

It's not "Climate Change"  it's "Climate Hoax"...  As for global warming the planet has not warmed at all for the past 17+ years according to NOAA- in fact the global temp has dropped-

 So absurd. The climate has natural variability as you have pointed out.  Sunspot variability for example, typically on an 11 year cycle but we have been in an extended cycle this go round, when in the "low cycle" means cooler temperatures. But scientists take that into account. El Nino and La Nina Cycles on top of that can also have an effect. Also the deep oceans have been warming and "transporting" a lot of heat, this is not typically counted for as added heat per the "climate" but it will begin to affect the climate in time as that heat is transported through the system.      

Here is an outtake from an article with a little of that info...



One of the important reasons is natural climate fluctuations, of which the weather phenomena El Niño and La Niña in the Pacific are the most important and well known. "1998 was a strong El Niño year, which is why it was so warm that year," says Knutti. In contrast, the counter-phenomenon La Niña has made the past few years cooler than they would otherwise have been.
Although climate models generally take such fluctuations into account, it is impossible to predict the year in which these phenomena will emerge, says the climate physicist. To clarify, he uses the stock market as an analogy: "When pension funds invest the pension capital in shares, they expect to generate a profit in the long term." At the same time, they are aware that their investments are exposed to price fluctuations and that performance can also be negative in the short term. However, what finance specialists and climate scientists and their models are not able to predict is when exactly a short-term economic downturn or a La Niña year will occur.

Longer solar cycles
According to the study, the second important reason for the warming hiatus is that solar irradiance has been weaker than predicted in the past few years. This is because the identified fluctuations in the intensity of solar irradiance are unusual at present: whereas the so-called sunspot cycles each lasted eleven years in the past, for unknown reasons the last period of weak solar irradiance lasted 13 years. Furthermore, several volcanic eruptions, such as Eyjafjallajökull in Iceland in 2010, have increased the concentration of floating particles (aerosol) in the atmosphere, which has further weakened the solar irradiance arriving at Earth's surface.

So really the earth would have been even cooler than it has been, had it not been for the current greenhouse gasses making it "warmer".  (Hope that didn't fry too many brain cells)
But be rest assured that sunspots will reappear as will El Nino.  Natural short term variability will not get rid of the long term consequences of the additional greenhouse gasses.  Your only wild card might be an extended bout of volcanic activity or a stray giant meteor strike or two.

[heironymouspasparagus]

It's not "Climate Change"  it's "Climate Hoax"...  As for global warming the planet has not warmed at all for the past 17+ years according to NOAA- in fact the global temp has dropped- yet the global warming train keeps going, the hoax has to be kept alive and they call that science. Global warming is not really about science anyhow it's a political movement. The winter of 2014 was so severe that the great  lakes totally froze solid- it takes a very cold winter to do that. Where is that warming? In the early 1990's they said by the year 2000 NY would be under water from the melting polar ice. Never happened, no follow ups, they know people would forget about that prediction by the time 2000 rolled around. Get ready people Obama plans some drastic climate change  executive orders meaning  higher electric bills and oil prices all in the name of a hoax.

And now sauer #1 is back....  Stay on your meds!!

[Gaspar]

What about the volcano in Iceland? Will that affect global/man made whatever its called?

Yes. Volcanos are now caused by fracking in North Dakota.

[guido911]

Yes. Volcanos are now caused by fracking in North Dakota.

You are mistaken. Fracking in North Dakota caused the Ebola virus outbreak in Africa. Come on.

[Townsend]

You are mistaken. Fracking in North Dakota caused the Ebola virus outbreak in Africa. Come on.

Man, FOX news really has you guys F'd up.

[sauerkraut]

Hang on gang, Obama is going to by-pass Congress and push his global warming agenda thru via the United Nations. hang on to your wallet as our electric bills double & tripple and gasoline spikes at $10.00 a gallon. All in the name of a Climate  hoax. Kill the jobs, kill the economy, and bring the USA down to it's knees and this  will be one thing that is  all man made-- the  economic distruction of our nation. Since Obama took power  the  national average of gasoline  never fell below $3.00 a gallon. When Bush left office gasoline was $1.70 a gallon cheap by todays standards. Obama's war on oil & coal has not really even started yet remember Obama has two more years and nothing to lose by going all out radical left... Anyhow back to Michelle Obama and her self appointed job as Food Police. The result has been a huge increase of wasted food. Kids eat with their taste buds and always will, it's hard to force kids to eat something they don't wanna eat. The schools have been throwing away alot of good food.

[sauerkraut]

And now sauer #1 is back....  Stay on your meds!!

What is incorrect about my post? Did not Al Gore say in the early 1990's that  by the year 2000 NY would be under water because of global warming? I remember it.