Simon Outlet Mall 61st & Hwy 75

[Oil Capital]

Woodland Hills Mall, one of their more successful properties (at least in 2014).

Source?

[heironymouspasparagus]

That's been the word for a couple of years. When I was staying with my kids in Jenks two weeks ago, "Available" signs are still on the property and my son-in-law who is pretty plugged in to development issues around Jenks was telling me there has been a long-running disagreement between Simon and Jenks about who gets to pay to move a large gas line underneath the property.  Ironically, this may well be the same line that the City of Tulsa seemed pretty eager to help move on Turkey Mountain.

If that is the 30" line over there, the gas company should be participating in it big time.  That thing had some corrosion issues 20+ years ago - not too dangerous then, but not getting better with time.   One of their Rockwell ball valves was very worn - made for an interesting 'ride' when opening and closing...

[Conan71]

I heard they are really close to 75% pre leased. That's the magic number to build. Stay tuned!!

They were 80% pre-leased when I met with John Dionis in Feb. of 2015 and they were still planning to build at 61st & Highway 75.

[Conan71]

If that is the 30" line over there, the gas company should be participating in it big time.  That thing had some corrosion issues 20+ years ago - not too dangerous then, but not getting better with time.   One of their Rockwell ball valves was very worn - made for an interesting 'ride' when opening and closing...

Entrust came through and did a comprehensive inspection and improvements to their ROW on Turkey Mountain in 2015 including an erosion control project.  No idea what shape the pipeline was in on the underground sections but I would assume if there were concerns they would have been addressed.

[Conan71]

Source?

I don't recall the exact place I found this in late 2014 or early 2015.  It may well have been from the sit-down meeting myself, some other TUWC board members, and other trail users had with some of Simon's executives.  Even though we were adversaries on the particular project, I had cordial relationships with several people at Simon during that time.  I spent many hours researching Simon's business practices and learning more about WHM to figure out who our important allies were in getting the project stopped at 61st & Hwy 75.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Entrust came through and did a comprehensive inspection and improvements to their ROW on Turkey Mountain in 2015 including an erosion control project.  No idea what shape the pipeline was in on the underground sections but I would assume if there were concerns they would have been addressed.

Last time I was involved in any inspections there was in the early 90's.  The pipe was in ok shape for its age - the ball valves at the pig launchers were a mess!   

[BuiltRight]

Drove by the Jenks location and saw that Simon has begun to build a giant sign. It wasn't fully installed when I drove by, but they had the bottom panels up with the Simon logo. So looks like something is going on over there.

[BKDotCom]

Drove by the Jenks location and saw that Simon has begun to build a giant sign. It wasn't fully installed when I drove by, but they had the bottom panels up with the Simon logo. So looks like something is going on over there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=372436tJiaM

[swake]

Drove by the Jenks location and saw that Simon has begun to build a giant sign. It wasn't fully installed when I drove by, but they had the bottom panels up with the Simon logo. So looks like something is going on over there.

The sign says they open in 2020.

[BKDotCom]

Tulsa World has an article about the sign.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/retail/we-re-incredibly-excited-proposed-jenks-outlet-mall-sign-says/article_febd01ed-cb83-5b5c-b568-7b4acdb51b5e.html

[Townsend]

If this development actually happens, I can only assume this means that Simon sees the Woodland location continuing to go downhill.

[Conan71]

If this development actually happens, I can only assume this means that Simon sees the Woodland location continuing to go downhill.

But think how big that mega-church will be!

[patric]

But think how big that mega-church will be!

Is Spirit Bank a church?  Inquiring minds want to know.



As for Jenks outlet, who thinks this sign might still be the only thing there in two years?

[SXSW]

If this development actually happens, I can only assume this means that Simon sees the Woodland location continuing to go downhill.

Woodland seems pretty stable to me, why do you say that?

[BKDotCom]

But think how big that mega-church will be!

Promenade mall : only .75% church