Simon Outlet Mall 61st & Hwy 75

[guido911]

Turkey Mountain dies in the end.

[TeeDub]

Turkey Mountain dies in the end.

You should have posted "Spoiler Alert."    Now the whole thing is ruined for me.

[heironymouspasparagus]

You mean homes where people might be living? Give us a picture of your house so we can critique its appearance smart guy.

He is being generic - all additions are treeless, cookie-cutter, bu$$ ugly places - except for just the tiniest number who actually have some design involved.

The criteria - if there is a driveway and a garage door at the front of the house, with said garage door being an integral part of the lack of design effort, then THAT is the type housing addition one lives in - cookie cutter ugly.  We looked at houses in Chimney Hills several times many years ago and thought some of them were slightly less ugly than most, but they all still had the garage door as main architectural element.  The realtor was AMAZING!!!  She happened to live in the area and was active in the HOA, and was more than just a little bit snooty about how much better Chimney Hills was than most additions for various reasons, including design!!  I have a couple architects and one architectural engineer in the family, and so have absorbed at least an inkling of what actually constitutes good residential design, so I told her the garage door reality.  The expressions were priceless - I wish I would have had a camera!!

We now live in a neighborhood where people are content with their "treeless cookie-cutter" houses, because they planted trees to hide the generic.  And no one has delusions of grandeur.... nice little area surrounded by good friendly people for the vast majority.

[patric]

You mean homes where people might be living? Give us a picture of your house so we can critique its appearance smart guy.

This doesnt show it all,
or may not be to scale,
or remotely accurate, but

[heironymouspasparagus]

This doesnt show it all,
or may not be to scale,
or remotely accurate, but

I saw that on the show!!  Brilliant!!  I want a margarita swimming pool...!!

[guido911]

You should have posted "Spoiler Alert."    Now the whole thing is ruined for me.

You win the internets today. As always, collect your trophy from Al Gore--founder and leader of the internet.

[Conan71]

Well Turkey Mountain has gotten a 30 day reprieve.  Simon has asked for a continuance of their zoning hearing to April 15.  Not really a surprise.  Word around the campfire is it might even be delayed longer.  There are many moving parts in this project.

[rebound]

BB is just being an activist. We need more of that around here. 

Troll level to 12... 

[heironymouspasparagus]

You win the internets today. As always, collect your trophy from Al Gore--founder and leader of the internet.

It's kind of a shame you are always in "Twitter" mode...sound byte mode for older folks.  But with your statement about Gore, maybe there is a glimmer for you, if you could just read a few more words at one time....

Here is Al's quote;

I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be. But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.


I know you want that to mean what Rupert and Friends have programmed you with - framing this as a claim that he personally believed he invented the internet - which is exactly NOT what he said.

His actual words have been widely affirmed by the main guys involved in the implementation of the idea - Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn - guys in the geek/tech world who are acknowledged as 'Fathers' of the webz.  Kahn's literal statement about it, "No one in public life has been more intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving Internet than the Vice President."  (VP referring to Al Gore, of course.)

Maybe THAT is the problem - the word 'intellectually' that Kahn used - Rupert and Friends just can't wrap their minds around that concept - of intellect!!


Here's a little history for those interested in a high level view of development of the interwebz...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology

[AdamsHall]

... sorry to contribute to the thread drift, but the Gore discussion reminded me of my favorite political ad ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vepcauRpinA

[dbacksfan 2.0]

So did Gore count Narwhals and polar bears the same day in the same spot?

[heironymouspasparagus]

Turkey Mountain dies in the end.

It's already a done deal...maybe we should just schedule a TNF wake for Turkey Mountain.  Progress for the sake of progress will ensue no matter what.

Previous posters have complained about us getting to pay for the infrastructure improvements for that mess.  I second their thoughts.

[Conan71]

It's already a done deal..

Far from it.  I'd hate for someone just now tuning in to this thread to think it was a done deal.  It's nowhere close.

[AquaMan]

It sounds like they're asking for a cooling off period. Hard to keep the anti momentum going with spring break, end of school, vacations, festivals etc. Watch out for the sucker punch!

[heironymouspasparagus]

Far from it.  I'd hate for someone just now tuning in to this thread to think it was a done deal.  It's nowhere close.

I suspect there will be lots of commotion, moaning, groaning, and wailing and maybe even some flagellation.  And then it will go through.  Or if we are lucky, Simon will get reach the point they feel the bad publicity can't outweigh the expected benefit.  Then it will stop - for that location.


I have never been to the outlet mall in OKC - that kind of thing never impinges on my consciousness, but have been asking around of all the circle of friends/family and was somewhat surprised at how many of them make at least annual pilgrimages to OKC to attend the mall services (sales, etc).  Some go more than once a year.  And all of them are excited about the shopping there, so my apathy has changed somewhat to a mild enthusiasm for the idea.  Would much rather see a very different location, though so we don't have to spend a ton of money on intersection improvements there.  There has to be an already improved intersection in the metro area somewhere.... 

How about on the north side of the street across from Eastland!!