Space immediately North of The Tavern (Brady District)

[AdamsHall]

Anyone know what is going on there?  Note, this appears to be different the GKFF work on the SE corner of Cameron St. & Main Street.

[rdj]

GKFF has a master lease for all of the buildings from Brady to Cameron and Main east back to the alley.  These buildings have very cool plans, but not sure what is ready to be made public.  Expect office, retail and lofts.  I've heard the alley will be updated to be a pedestrian friendly space.

[hello]

More Teach for America Lofts or will they be open to anyone?

[ZYX]

Alley being opened up for pedestrians? Could be cool..

[TulsaGoldenHurriCAN]

Anyone know what is going on there?  Note, this appears to be different the GKFF work on the SE corner of Cameron St. & Main Street.

Isn't the SE corner of Cameron & Main going to be a brew pub ran by Prairie Artisan Ales? If not, that is going in somewhere north of the Tavern on Main.

[Conan71]

Isn't the SE corner of Cameron & Main going to be a brew pub ran by Prairie Artisan Ales? If not, that is going in somewhere north of the Tavern on Main.

Hadn't heard that one.  I knew Marshall's was rumored to be part of one near the ball park.

[DowntownDan]

Isn't the SE corner of Cameron & Main going to be a brew pub ran by Prairie Artisan Ales? If not, that is going in somewhere north of the Tavern on Main.

That would be effin awesome.  I've been wondering if they would keep the Chandler Park facility or open something in or near downtown for their 3.2 offerings after they move to Mounds.  I love Prairie, but I'm probably not going to drive that far very often for growler fills.

[Hoss]

I don't know..after finding out that growler fills were limited to just 3.2, I was like 'what's the point?'.  Peer pressure however is starting to take hold.  If a low point beer can have full flavor, I'd be all for it.  It just seems however that would be difficult and my palate would know the difference.

[DowntownDan]

I don't know..after finding out that growler fills were limited to just 3.2, I was like 'what's the point?'.  Peer pressure however is starting to take hold.  If a low point beer can have full flavor, I'd be all for it.  It just seems however that would be difficult and my palate would know the difference.

There are lots of low point beers that are full flavor.  There has been low point beer brewed since its inception.  Just because bud and bud light are flavorless has nothing to do with its alcohol content.  I've had the Marshall and Prairie low point growler offerings and they are pretty darn good.  Coop Brewery in Oklahoma City sells three varieties of low point beer in grocery stores and all three are even better than the local growler beers in my opinion.  Low point beers have a stigma because of the stupid law in Oklahoma that uses 3.2 as some sort of significant threshhold.  It's not.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/12/10/368038601/for-more-drinking-with-less-buzzing-session-beers-gain-fans

[TeeDub]

Low point beers have a stigma because of the stupid law in Oklahoma that uses 3.2 as some sort of significant threshhold.  It's not.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/12/10/368038601/for-more-drinking-with-less-buzzing-session-beers-gain-fans

Plus remember, our is 3.2 alcohol by weight and most others are measured in alcohol by volume.

If you were to measure our 3.2% (by weight) beer in the same fashion as everyone else (by volume), they're really 4.0% beers. This percentage is in many cases just slightly less than the average alcohol content of most mainstream beers.

Draught Guinness comes in at a whopping 4.2% abv.   

[Conan71]

Draught Guinness comes in at a whopping 4.2% abv.   

Great point, TD, just the point I wanted to make.  Alcohol doesn't really "add" flavor to lower ABV beers.  I, for one, could not begin to tell someone what I thought the ABV of a session beer was if you gave me ten samples to try of varying alcohol levels from ABV 4 to 6%.  When you get into imperials or barley wine, it's more obvious you are in high point land.

There's many things you can do with mash temps, grain selection, and hop schedules which can make a really outstanding 4.0 ABV.  I brewed a 4.6 stout before the holidays which was an overwhelming favorite amongst my beer snob friends compared to higher percentage offerings I had in bottle or on tap.

[Red Arrow]

I don't know..after finding out that growler fills were limited to just 3.2, I was like 'what's the point?'.  Peer pressure however is starting to take hold.  If a low point beer can have full flavor, I'd be all for it.  It just seems however that would be difficult and my palate would know the difference.

I bought a growler of Marshall's Mosaic Pale Ale.  I liked it.  Good flavor and I couldn't tell it was only "3.2".  It's also NOT a 3.2 version of Arrowhead.  It's different.

[carltonplace]

It will be a brew pub downstairs, Josh Royal is connected to this project.

[saintnicster]

http://m.tulsaworld.com/scene/scenelatest/antoinette-baking-co-plans-second-location-in-the-brady-arts/article_42ab7388-a765-11e4-a442-03620ef12df8.html?mode=jqm

In a Facebook post Wednesday, Antoinette Baking Co. announced that it will have a second location in the Brady Arts District later this year.

They plan to be next to the The Tavern restaurant and said the second location "will offer even more of what you already love."

The popular bakery celebrated its second year at its Brookside location last year.

In the announcement, they thanked the George Kaiser Family Foundation for helping make the second location a reality.

[Conan71]

http://m.tulsaworld.com/scene/scenelatest/antoinette-baking-co-plans-second-location-in-the-brady-arts/article_42ab7388-a765-11e4-a442-03620ef12df8.html?mode=jqm

In a Facebook post Wednesday, Antoinette Baking Co. announced that it will have a second location in the Brady Arts District later this year.

They plan to be next to the The Tavern restaurant and said the second location "will offer even more of what you already love."

The popular bakery celebrated its second year at its Brookside location last year.

In the announcement, they thanked the George Kaiser Family Foundation for helping make the second location a reality.

They have done well for themselves.  Unfortunately, I gain five pounds any time I visit their FB page or walk in their original location.