Left on yellow

[saintnicster]

People need to take public safety seriously & stop being so damn greedy & selfish.

Look at these statistics. Tulsa is on this list twice!

According to State Farm Insurance Company, the top 10 most dangerous traffic intersections in the United States are:
10. Sacramento, California. Fair Oaks Boulevard and Howe Avenue.
9. Metairie, Lousiana. Clearview Parkway and Veterans Memorial Boulevard.
8. Plano, Texas. State Highway 121 and Preston Road.
7. Phoenix, Arizona. 19th Avenue and Northern Avenue.
6. Tulsa, Oklahoma. 71st Street and Memorial Drive.
5. Tulsa, Oklahoma. 51st Street and Memorial Drive.
4. Phoenix, Arizona. 7th Street and Bell Road.
3. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Grand Avenue and Roosevelt Boulevard.
2. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Red Lion Road and Roosevelt Boulevard.
1. Pembroke Pines, Florida. Flamingo Road and Pines Boulevard.

Dude, that was from back at least 2001.  http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/east/2001/06/28/12403.htm

[Breadburner]

Just do whatever you think you can get away with.......

[carltonplace]

I remember hearing the COP making a statement XMAS 2014 that the police were going to crack down on drivers that entered the intersection in the designated left turn lane without the appropriate protected left green arrow.

[patric]

I remember hearing the COP making a statement XMAS 2014 that the police were going to crack down on drivers that entered the intersection in the designated left turn lane without the appropriate protected left green arrow.

Oddly specific, probably driven by a grant.
This may have been one:  http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/drivers-in-tulsa-be-warned-a-police-crackdown-is-underway/article_52aec132-4e01-532c-b023-43d195cd8c3f.html?mode=story

Tulsa City Ordinance Title 37 Section 606(A)... a vehicle which enters on a green signal may complete such movement with safety even after the yellow or red signals appear.
http://www.cityoftulsa.org/media/82082/title_37_s20_corr.pdf

[AquaMan]

There may be a distinction there. If you thought the intersection was clear enough and you had time to exit before the lights turn yellow/red, then obviously you should be able to continue even though the light turns. However, those who enter the intersection and "park" there waiting for an opportunity have not just entered. They are gambling that even if no else makes it, they will.

That is really pretty dangerous considering that traffic coming from adjacent streets may be moving when they arrive at the intersection and never see you in time. Of course these days you must assume two or three cars are going to run the red anyway.

[patric]

There may be a distinction there. If you thought the intersection was clear enough and you had time to exit before the lights turn yellow/red, then obviously you should be able to continue even though the light turns. However, those who enter the intersection and "park" there waiting for an opportunity have not just entered. They are gambling that even if no else makes it, they will.

If you had the chance, how would you re-write the ordinance to reflect that?

[saintnicster]

If you had the chance, how would you re-write the ordinance to reflect that?

"I know a bad turn when I see it"

[AquaMan]

Perhaps by defining more clearly what "entering" means and when you may enter? Or enumerating the time in seconds. Lots of people will wait till the light is about to turn yellow and enter with the idea of turning on the yellow. Of course the opposing traffic intends to run that yellow and the red.

[sgrizzle]

Some ideas:
1. Make the left turn lane turn red before straight
2. No left on green in major intersections 7am-7pm
3. Make it illegal to enter an intersection in which you cannot currently clear

[Red Arrow]

Some ideas:
1. Make the left turn lane turn red before straight

Some intersections are left turn last.  I really don't understand the timing of some of the lights on Memorial south of 91st.

2. No left on green in major intersections 7am-7pm

Many intersections are already marked left on arrow only.  I believe 71st & Memorial is one of them.

3. Make it illegal to enter an intersection in which you cannot currently clear

Good on the surface but without an arrow, there may never be an opportunity to turn left at some of the intersections I must traverse.