Davenport Urban Lofts

[BouldinDomer]

Does anyone know anything about this project? It seems to be happening in the lot just south of Soundpony. We live in Brady Heights so we are by here almost daily, and the signage went up about a week ago.

They have a website, which says nothing, but I can find nothing else about the project.

[SXSW]

I don't know anything about it either but the rendering looks nice.  I'd curious to know if they are rentals or for-purchase condos.  Those upper floor units will have some stellar views.

[BouldinDomer]

The sign says "Starting at 450K" so I will guess they will be for sale.

My first thought was "This would be a fantastic place to watch Tulsa Tough."

[ZYX]

Awesome. I've been wondering when that lot would be developed. Rendering looks great.

[carltonplace]

Whoa, those are spendy (why does it make me think Bumgarner?). It's wonderful that the development is moving north. There is a giant emply lot just across the street that is begging for development and lots of empty space north of 244.

[cbs]

There will be 8 very high end, for-purchase lofts. That's probably all I can say right now.

[dsjeffries]

There will be 8 very high end, for-purchase lofts. That's probably all I can say right now.

Only 8 units in that massive building? Too bad.

[hello]

I'll be so glad when there are actual places to live in the Brady district that aren't $450k to buy/$1,300 a month to rent apartments or only for Teach for America participants. Middle ground, please. 

[ZYX]

I'll be so glad when there are actual places to live in the Brady district that aren't $450k to buy/$1,300 a month to rent apartments or only for Teach for America participants. Middle ground, please. 

I wouldn't expect that any time soon, and probably not ever.

[glove51]

There will be 8 very high end, for-purchase lofts. That's probably all I can say right now.

Until they inevitably don't sell, then they will be 8 high-end rentals.

[LandArchPoke]

Until they inevitably don't sell, then they will be 8 high-end rentals.

$450,000 isn't terrible compared to the $850,000 Urban 8

I give this project 3x the likelyhood of being successful than Urban 8

Just imagine if this was 16 units for $225,000. How quickly do you think those would sell? I bet 2 or 3 times faster.

[swake]

$450,000 isn't terrible compared to the $850,000 Urban 8

I give this project 3x the likelyhood of being successful than Urban 8

Just imagine if this was 16 units for $225,000. How quickly do you think those would sell? I bet 2 or 3 times faster.

Looks really good too.

[dsjeffries]

Looks really good too.

The upper floors look good, but I'm concerned that the first floor has very few windows, is out of scale with any nearby buildings, and is mostly blank brick walls with a couple garage entrances. Definitely not going to encourage any sort of street life. And I doubt the folks willing to pay $450,000 for a unit in the building will ever let their feet touch the sidewalk in front of the building, especially when they can drive in, park, and never interact with another human. See: snout houses.

[TheArtist]

The upper floors look good, but I'm concerned that the first floor has very few windows, is out of scale with any nearby buildings, and is mostly blank brick walls with a couple garage entrances. Definitely not going to encourage any sort of street life. And I doubt the folks willing to pay $450,000 for a unit in the building will ever let their feet touch the sidewalk in front of the building, especially when they can drive in, park, and never interact with another human. See: snout houses.

Right, unless there is retail on the ground floor that building will just act as another "gap" in any lively pedestrian fabric.

This is why I have started using the term "pedestrian lively" versus just putting a shout out for "pedestrian friendly".   Other cities have learned the lesson that, yes pedestrian friendly is good, but in order to have an "active streetscape" you need to have what I call "pedestrian lively" development.  I have seen some cities that have zoning along some streets and or incentives to get that type of development.  They will explicitly discourage "living at street level" on these streets for they realize that will harm the creation of a pedestrian lively corridor.  And some will even go so far as to discourage office on the ground floor and will instead encourage, retail, dining, entertainment, services, etc.

If your looking to create that lively, "main street" type atmosphere, living at street level on those streets will hurt that.

Again am reminded of my last "walkabout" in parts of OKC and thinking.... "It's like they took all the pieces (buildings, shops, living, etc,) of a real city, put them in a bag, shook it up, and then opened up the top and scattered them all out there to land willy nilly with no rhyme or reason.  And then in Dallas, streets with lots of living just like this, and the occasional cluster of shops or restaurants, but sidewalks so quiet you could hear crickets.  

I am of course still hopeful about our downtown. But this will create a quiet gap there on main street. 

 

[Red Arrow]

I'll be so glad when there are actual places to live in the Brady district that aren't $450k to buy/$1,300 a month to rent apartments or only for Teach for America participants. Middle ground, please. 

That's way above my financial threshold of pain for an apartment.