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Started by TulsaGoldenHurriCAN, June 26, 2015, 09:05:58 AM

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TheArtist

Here are a couple of quick videos we put together for the Tulsa Art Deco Museum.  Nothing specific, just general to start getting the word out a little. 

Our goal is to still perhaps find an old building somewhere in the core of downtown and rehab it. Or tag onto some sort of new Central Transit Station Hub project downtown.  That way we can also serve as a Visitor/Welcome Center as well.   

You can find our new videos on Facebook here....   https://www.facebook.com/tulsaartdecomuseum?fref=ts   

Or youtube here...


Help us find a new home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-diO6t8xsw

Some snippets from our Vision Plan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWSqnp_CSQ


Please if you can, take a moment to like us and make a comment on both the Facebook and YouTube posts!  It will help!

"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

Breadburner

 

TheArtist

Quote from: Breadburner on July 26, 2015, 12:24:53 PM
I thought this was for game changing ideas.....???

It is for game changing ideas.  Thats one reason my hope would be to be included with something larger like a Central Transit Station that could be for a future OKC Tulsa route, a downtown circulator and the Bus Rapid Transit to Brookside, connections to Cherry Street and the Pearl and the Park, and a downtown bikeshare program.  Why not make that even better by adding more components?  Imagine getting off the rail from OKC or being a visitor in town and being welcomed by our Tulsa Art Deco Museum sponsored staff?  We would also have information about the city, where to go what to see (we do a lot of this anyway) and we could also have entertaining exhibits that tell the story of Tulsa's Boomtown/Jazz Age history, along with the museum component of showcasing incredible art deco art and artifacts from around the world.   Just include some room for us in the transit hub and we would finance the operation of the visitor/welcome center and create the exhibits.  We are looking for a permanent home and I think us being part of a new transit hub complex would be a great way to welcome people to the city and proudly showcase something we are so well known for. 

Also, we see other people and groups like the PAC, Childrens Museum, Gilcrease, etc. vying for some funds, I feel it would be terribly remiss on behalf of the Tulsa Art Deco Museum if I just sat back and didn't at least try as well. 

And... I do think that if we were to get the funding to do a great, all out art deco museum we could be a big part of a renaissance per tourism in Tulsa.  Adding this museum to the OK Pop, Gilcrease, Guthrie, Philbrook downtown and Mid-Town, the new Route 66 center, would definitely make us more of a destination and keep people in town, and in downtown longer.  I think we have been terribly remiss in not taking advantage of our tourism potential and the economic impact it can have.  I mean, I think it's a no brainer for Tulsa to have an Art Deco Museum. It's one of the most obvious of museums that we should have.  We have also been exploring the idea of it becoming the Tulsa National Art Deco Museum!  That could help put us back on the map.
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

sgrizzle

Move Tulsa Transit's hub to someplace like 11th and peoria where it will intersect the peoria BRT route and hopefully an east-west BRT route as well, then focus on realigning to a grid.

heironymouspasparagus

They are asking for ideas...??  Seems like there is a pretty good starter list here on the TulsaNow forum...  I may be missing it but so far it seems like the ideas I hear coming from on high don't seem to reflect ideas that people have and talk about very much - like the current Riverside shut down Gathering.  Or the water in the river thing.  Pet projects that are "pushed" through - the perception is that every big sales tax spend takes at least two or three votes until people just get tired of hearing about it and vote yes just to stop the 'noise'.

In particular, the transit ideas of recent months - small localized, concentrated, intensive transportation modes that could be used by groups of people downtown.  Cherry Street.  Brookside.  Spreading over time to other areas of town.  Hub/spokes to outlying areas - Jenks, Sapulpa, Sand Springs, Skiatook, Owasso, Collinsville, Oologah - the entire ring around Tulsa.


Here's a place with a lot of ideas...

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php

Second heading - Talk About Tulsa.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

TulsaRufnex

Bold.  Game-changing.  Literally.

Boston Avenue Multi-sport.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4iom3S1BHo

Unique.  Award-Winning.  Sustainable.  http://au.autodesk.com/las-vegas/sustainability/contest

Although I kinda prefer this location to the TCC one proposed further south...
http://www.newson6.com/story/29612127/downtown-tulsa-parking-lot-looking-for-developers

Hope it happens... would be similar to this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XCH1Nw6trY
"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."
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TulsaGoldenHurriCAN

Quote from: TulsaRufnex on July 28, 2015, 04:53:42 PM
Bold.  Game-changing.  Literally.

Boston Avenue Multi-sport.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4iom3S1BHo

Unique.  Award-Winning.  Sustainable.  http://au.autodesk.com/las-vegas/sustainability/contest

Although I kinda prefer this location to the TCC one proposed further south...
http://www.newson6.com/story/29612127/downtown-tulsa-parking-lot-looking-for-developers

Hope it happens... would be similar to this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XCH1Nw6trY

Several of the proposals are interesting. I like that proposal the most as the most game-changing idea and one that will begin to transform previously off-limit lots into a great useful development. It adds a recreation space along with retail and even more parking in the garage.

The PAC lot won't work because this development spans 2 blocks (it will create a bridge over a street).

DowntownDan

I'm all for a soccer stadium.  I'd prefer it in the East Village though closer to where stuff already is and is growing and expanding.  The parking crater has a long way to go before anything infills around it.  We've seen how long it's taken to get things done around the BOK Center and OneOk field, and they weren't as far desolate as the crater.  Would TCC and the Churches even allow the stadium, or more importantly, infill around it?

TulsaGoldenHurriCAN

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For the PAC, it seems someone should propose a diagonal decorative path going from 2nd & Detroit to 3rd & Cincinnati lined with gardens/fountains retail/restaurant space with a parking garage on one side (with spots available to lease) and residential condos on the other (so we can get more ownership of downtown by longer-term residents. Nice affordable condos are a glaring need downtown.).

The diagonal path will more naturally and aesthetically lead people to and from the PAC/Blue Dome areas and make it a more walkable urban experience.

Here is a quick sketch to clarify:

TulsaGoldenHurriCAN

Quote from: DowntownDan on July 29, 2015, 09:42:58 AM
I'm all for a soccer stadium.  I'd prefer it in the East Village though closer to where stuff already is and is growing and expanding.  The parking crater has a long way to go before anything infills around it.  We've seen how long it's taken to get things done around the BOK Center and OneOk field, and they weren't as far desolate as the crater.  Would TCC and the Churches even allow the stadium, or more importantly, infill around it?

TCC is on board with the idea. They apparently said so long as the organization developing it can get the funding then they may use the land for that purpose. It will enhance the student/professor experience, providing an outdoor green space with cafe/retail and even more parking than before.

carltonplace


rdj

I'm not a fan of the soccer stadium on the lots south of TCC.  In my opinion that is better suited for a parking garage and student housing for TCC/OSU Tulsa.  Run a dedicated base down Cincy and back up Detroit between the schools.
Live Generous.  Live Blessed.

Markk

I like the soccer stadium idea.  Isn't there enough of a parking crater to accommodate both the soccer complex and some garage parking/housing combo? 

The Mohawk soccer complex absolutely needs to be upgraded to have more parking and way, way, way more real restrooms (additional restrooms on the west side, and new real restrooms on the east side).   Think there is any way to effectively screen off the view of the landfill?

swake

Streetcar. This is a 2.2 mile line, about the same as what Kansas City is building right now for $120 million



Fund the operating costs with a .25 or .5 sales tax that is only collected downtown. That's what KC is doing as well.

Townsend

More Vision Pitches: Soccer Stadium, Trail Connections, Bike Sharing

http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/more-vision-pitches-soccer-stadium-trail-connections-bike-sharing

QuoteTulsa city leaders had a long night at a Vision hearing.

"This is good. We don't normally see a crowd like this unless we're doing something you hate," City Councilor Blake Ewing said to a nearly full council chamber before the first speaker came to the podium for what became a nearly four-hour session.

A downtown restaurateur thinks it's time for a soccer stadium. Elliot Nelson said a Vision renewal could provide $30 to $45 million for an 8,000 seat stadium that could be expanded later.

Nelson said he's not just looking for a downtown home for the Roughnecks or a Major League Soccer team. He said Tulsa needs these attractions to keep younger residents from leaving town when they have families.

"So that our next ring of suburban development isn't further out in Owasso, but it is the people who live downtown who now want to live at 11th and Peoria," Nelson said.

Possible locations are Eighth and Boston, Sixth and Frankfort or the Evans Fintube site, though no property owners have been contacted.

Supporters of a bicycle and pedestrian master plan for Tulsa see an opportunity in the possible Vision sales tax renewal. James Wagner with INCOG said the Go Plan could use $15 million for 20 projects.

"They're based on sort of a scientific process, if you will, of looking at metrics of population density and connecting actual places, like TCC and University of Tulsa," Wagner said.

The Go Plan would build on a trail master plan from 16 years ago by connecting neighborhoods to Tulsa's trails and making it easier for people to walk and bike. The Tulsa Health Department is backing the idea, which would add many more miles of bike lanes and split trails.

A bike sharing proposal was among several pitches asking for a piece of the pie during the hearing. INCOG is planning two phases of 12 stations and 108 bikes throughout Tulsa, which would cost $2.5 million.

Jennifer Haddaway with INCOG said the health, quality of life and transportation benefits are obvious, but there's also an economic development piece.

"In Washington, D.C., more than eight out of 10 said they were more likely to visit a business, shop or restaurant with easy access to a bike sharing dock," Haddaway said.

Haddaway says the idea already has private funding commitments of nearly $1 million.

The City of Tulsa recently added more public hearings. The remaining hearings are Aug. 11 and 25 at 6 p.m. in the council chambers at city hall. A list of proposals submitted so far is available online.