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Started by Stone, September 29, 2015, 11:53:41 AM

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Stone

More good news for the OK/Tulsa craft beer industry. Renaissance recently filed permits for their brewery/tap room at 12th and Lewis. They along with DA, Prairie and Marshalls will bring an exciting element to that area of East DT/Pearl district. Rumor has it since Prairie's situation in Glenpool didn't work out they are looking for a location near DT.
 

cannon_fodder

I hope Prairie has seen the light. I understand the urge to be in a rural "farm" setting, fits with their vibe. But I go to Prairie on a fairly regular basis, I drive there and I bike there. The people that are showing up at the Brewery are young professionals, hipster types, urbanites, and beer freaks. Maybe my perspective is wrong, but when I go to Glenpool those demographics are under represented. More like, ummm, what's the polite term for  - oh, I got it, lots of country folk.

Country folk are great, but they aren't very likely to spent $15 filling up a beer growler. And I wouldn't make a habit of traveling to Glenpool to do so either.

Plenty of rural settings in West Tulsa or the Gilcrease Hills, if they still want to differentiate themselves.
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Conan71

Quote from: Stone on September 29, 2015, 11:53:41 AM
More good news for the OK/Tulsa craft beer industry. Renaissance recently filed permits for their brewery/tap room at 12th and Lewis. They along with DA, Prairie and Marshalls will bring an exciting element to that area of East DT/Pearl district. Rumor has it since Prairie's situation in Glenpool didn't work out they are looking for a location near DT.

Chase would like something a little trendier for on-site sales/consumption.  Knowing firsthand from working with both Marshall and DA on part of their process systems, Tulsa seems to be one of the more difficult places to build a brewery.  I personally would not attempt it.

Opening a brewery is not easy.  In Tulsa, it is a complete asspain.  I don't know if anyone recalls, but when Renaissance first announced, Dead Armadillo had not even made an announcement about a Tulsa location.  I believe they were just starting to gypsy brew at Roughtail in MWC.

If anyone on here has an inkling to open a nano or micro brewery, I'd suggest you do it in a smaller outlying town so you don't have a number of ridiculous inspections and permits which are little more than a revenue grab for the larger cities and larger suburbs.  Certainly, there are reasons to have mechanical codes but my observation is that they are seldom enforced consistently or appropriately. 

Bristow, Stroud, or Chandler could be good spots along Rte. 66 and great for excursions to enjoy a beer garden, pub grub, and grab some growlers.
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Hoss

Hmm...am I missing something?  I was under the impression that Prairie's brewery was out near Chandler Park..

Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on September 29, 2015, 03:39:38 PM
Hmm...am I missing something?  I was under the impression that Prairie's brewery was out near Chandler Park..

It is.  Chase is doing his specialty beers there and doing the weekly growler fills and pint sales.  The higher volume stuff is still being brewed in Krebs at Choc.

He had purchased property down near Glenpool at one point with the intention of consolidating his brewing in one location.  That fell through and he has said he'd like to find property closer in to downtown which is less industrial looking and in a less industrial area.
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rdj

My understanding is the Glenpool project fell thru because it was going to be on a septic.  The waste created by the beer making process isn't exactly environmentally friendly when just dumped in the ground.
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Hoss

On the subject, because my team at work had some offsite meetings at the American Theatre Company, I drove by the DA brewery but I was a little confused.  It still appears to have the auto signage up.  Are they open there yet or still working on it?

Red Arrow

Quote from: cannon_fodder on September 29, 2015, 12:02:31 PM
I hope Prairie has seen the light. I understand the urge to be in a rural "farm" setting, fits with their vibe. But I go to Prairie on a fairly regular basis, I drive there and I bike there. The people that are showing up at the Brewery are young professionals, hipster types, urbanites, and beer freaks. Maybe my perspective is wrong, but when I go to Glenpool those demographics are under represented. More like, ummm, what's the polite term for  - oh, I got it, lots of country folk.

Country folk are great, but they aren't very likely to spent $15 filling up a beer growler. And I wouldn't make a habit of traveling to Glenpool to do so either.

Plenty of rural settings in West Tulsa or the Gilcrease Hills, if they still want to differentiate themselves.

Although Glenpool is actually closer for me, I agree the taproom and growler fills need to stay near Tulsa.  I wish Prairie had a bigger selection for growler fills.   Marshall's has had about a half dozen choices for growler fills.
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: Conan71 on September 29, 2015, 12:07:07 PM
Opening a brewery is not easy.  In Tulsa, it is a complete asspain. 

... a number of ridiculous inspections and permits which are little more than a revenue grab for the larger cities and larger suburbs.  Certainly, there are reasons to have mechanical codes but my observation is that they are seldom enforced consistently or appropriately. 

The City of Tulsa doesn't limit itself to breweries in that regard.   :(

 

Red Arrow

Quote from: rdj on September 29, 2015, 04:32:54 PM
My understanding is the Glenpool project fell thru because it was going to be on a septic.  The waste created by the beer making process isn't exactly environmentally friendly when just dumped in the ground.

A septic system isn't just dumped in the ground like a cesspool.  The volume of liquid and the sanitation chemicals may have been an issue though. I can't imagine flushing the spent grain to the septic system.

 

Red Arrow

Quote from: Conan71 on September 29, 2015, 12:07:07 PM
Bristow, Stroud, or Chandler could be good spots along Rte. 66 and great for excursions to enjoy a beer garden, pub grub, and grab some growlers.

I think those towns are a bit far for all but the most dedicated beer geeks to visit on a regular basis.  Folks who hate automobiles would certainly not go.  Flying there would definitely limit me to take out only.
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: Conan71 on September 29, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
That fell through and he has said he'd like to find property closer in to downtown which is less industrial looking and in a less industrial area.

Midtown infill? 

;D

 

sgrizzle

Three words I suggest:
Rose Bowl Brewery

Red Arrow

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Quote from: sgrizzle on September 29, 2015, 08:06:34 PM
Three words I suggest:
Rose Bowl Brewery

You'd need a (real) trolley for the urbanites to go that far out.   :D

It could be trolley route #66. 
 

Hoss

Quote from: Red Arrow on September 29, 2015, 08:44:51 PM
You'd need a (real) trolley for the urbanites to go that far out.   :D



Bah.  That's midway between work and home for me.  Perfect!