RNC - what a s**t show

[cannon_fodder]

Arbitrary and entirely subjective. Depends on which statements you look at entirely.

Fair points on most of those. Kudos. I picked on one speech. The vast majority of his statements weren't fact based. I picked on that speech because he started it with a fabulous promises of never lying. I can do better! The best lies are when Trump denies facts about Trump. Even things he said on tape. I'm sticking with three categories: lies about Trump, Economics, and Conspiracy Theory Crazy.

Statements aren't cut and pasted, but typed to save time. So take the quote with a grain of salt, but the message is true. Damn dogs woke up at 5 AM and this is how I use my time?

Trump on Trump

I had a high draft number (and avoided Vietnam)

Actually, Trump was given four deferments. Draft numbers weren't even used at the time.

I wrote every word in the Art of the Deal.

Not according to the ghost author the publisher, or the editor.

I'm worth more than $10 bil dollar

Not according to any source other than Donald Trump. And even then, that number varies but the billions of dollars a day.

I never pretended to be my own PR director...

He previously admitted he did, but laughed it off as a joke.

No one has ever mentioned the size of my hands before

In 1988 the editor of Vanity Fair made a jab about Trump's hands, and wrote after the Rubior incident that to this day Trump still sends him photos with his hands circled.

I take zero dollars from anyone, I'm fully self funded...

Always has accepted donations (millions even in the primary), never has been fully self funded.

Trump winery is the largest on the east coast

It isn't even the largest in Virginia... let alone the east coast.

I never said Bush lied about WMDs

He did. It's recorded.

I don't know anything about David Duke...

He did and he does.

I won 66 counties out of 67 in Florida. No one has ever done that well.

Except Kerry, Bush, Gore, and Dole in their respective primaries.

I warned them what would happen if they went to Iraq

He called the invasion a "great thing for the free world." In nine interviews around that time, he never criticized the war.

They edited that tape, if they release the whole thing...

No matter the topic, whenever the whole tape is released its a lie.

Art of the deal is the #1 selling business book of all time

Maybe #5.

My magazine is great. I send it to all my clubs...

The magazine he was pretending to hold up went out of business 8 years ago.

I'm number one with Hispancis [after the Nevada Primary]

93% of Hispanics voted for someone not Trump.

Word is that Ford Motor, because of my constant badgering at packed events, is going to cancel their deal to go to Mexico and stay in U.S...

Except Ford announced that decision in 2011, years before Trump discussed the issue.

I never tried to bulid a casino in Florida (while dressing down Jeb)

He did. In a very publicly failed bid to work with the Seminoles.

I handpicked many of my University professors.

Court records reflect the guy who ran the school says otherwise.

I got paid $1mil to give a speech (the Learning Annex), actually more than that.

It was $400k.

I was more than $9 Billion in debt...

Claim was made in two separate Trump books. Trump later said it was a "mistake" and was "no where near" that figure after being called out on it.

I have never said the government should pay for everyone's healthcare

He did, on 60 minutes.

25% of black voters support me...

The highest poll is 12%.

John Oliver has tried to have me on four or five times...

The correct answer is zero.

My favorite...

I got to know Putin very well because we were both on 60 Minutes. We were stablemates. We did well that night.

Trump was interviewed from New York. Putin was in Moscow. The interviews were conducted separately and the men never spoke.




Or on economics, his strong point right?

The United States has zero tarrifs on Chinese goods...

We do.

Our GDP growth has never been below zero

It has, frequently.

The unemployment rate in Wisconsin is 20%.

Closer to 5.

Japan sends us cars, I've seen the boats coming in. You know what we send them, beef. And they don't want it. And wheat. They don't want it.

US exports to Japan: #1, Aircraft. #2, medical and technical equipment, #3 industrial machinery, #4 electronics, #5 pharmaceuticals.

Made in America is dead, you don't see it anymore because we don't make anything

Commerce Department says $4.4 Trillion in goods qualify for the label.

Our trade balance with China is $500 Billion a year

It's $350 Billion.

Generally, if he is citing an economic number of talking about economics. It isn't accurate.



Then there's plan old conspiracy theories and delusion...

The wives of the hijackers knew exactly what was happening and returned to Saudi to watch it...

None of the hijackers had wives or girlfriends.

Thousands of Muslims in NY cheered when the towers fell

No documentation of this anywhere.

An American General in the Philippines put down a Muslim uprising by killing all the Muslims prisoners with bullets dipped in pigs blood...

Not only no, but praising a massacre?

81% of white people that are murdered are murdered by black people...

84% of murdered white people are murdered by other white people (he was citing statistics from a White Supremacist group).

Obama: birther conspiracy, never went to Columbia, Muslim...

No comment needed.

Just the other day, 2 years old, 2½ years old, a child, a beautiful child went to have the vaccine, and came back, and a week later got a tremendous fever, got very, very sick, now is autistic.

No comment needed.

[erfalf]

Great! This is what I am talking about. The more stuff like your first post that people see, it only causes more and more people to support Trump because it appears you are attacking him with baseless accusations. I honestly haven't gone through everything you posted yet, however I am sure most if not all is true.

If only the alternative's record was the opposite, then we would have something.

[AquaMan]

You have to give Conservative Republicans credit where its due. They are not afraid to support mental illness. This morning I checked the criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder on the Mayo Clinic website. www.bpdcentral.com.

Uncanny how well Trump does with the traits. Not surprising his strongest defenders and the party that put him there would not recognize them. Summarized:

     -Lacks empathy
     -Grandiose sense of self importance
     -Sense of entitlement
     -Interpersonally exploitative
     -Envious of others or believes others are envious of him
     -Requires excessive admiration
     -Show arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
     -Believes that he is special and unique and can only be understood by or should associate with, other special, high status people or institutions
     -Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty or ideal love.

He scores! Nine out of nine.

[Conan71]

You have to give Conservative Republicans credit where its due. They are not afraid to support mental illness. This morning I checked the criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder on the Mayo Clinic website. www.bpdcentral.com.

Uncanny how well Trump does with the traits. Not surprising his strongest defenders and the party that put him there would not recognize them. Summarized:

     -Lacks empathy
     -Grandiose sense of self importance
     -Sense of entitlement
     -Interpersonally exploitative
     -Envious of others or believes others are envious of him
     -Requires excessive admiration
     -Show arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
     -Believes that he is special and unique and can only be understood by or should associate with, other special, high status people or institutions
     -Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty or ideal love.

He scores! Nine out of nine.

The same has been said about Obama.  It's likely true of any previous president or presidential candidate.  It would take a certain amount of narcissism to believe you should be POTUS.

[Hoss]

The same has been said about Obama.  It's likely true of any previous president or presidential candidate.  It would take a certain amount of narcissism to believe you should be POTUS.

The problem with Trump however is that he sounds good to his followers in 140 characters or less.  Doesn't really make a good statesman.  My opinion of course.

[Conan71]

The problem with Trump however is that he sounds good to his followers in 140 characters or less.  Doesn't really make a good statesman.  My opinion of course.

This puzzles and alarms me somewhat.  How does he sound good or serious to anyone, in any amount of words?

He has come off as an egotistical tool for the last three or four decades, ever since the national media started paying more attention to him in the 1980s. 

I thought he was hilarious early on in the run up to the primaries because he was the proverbial "turd in the punch bowl".  I never dreamed he'd actually end up with the nomination.  I figured everyone would fall for Rubio's or Cruz' schtick.

[rebound]

The same has been said about Obama.  It's likely true of any previous president or presidential candidate.  It would take a certain amount of narcissism to believe you should be POTUS.

I disagree, at least in the level of extremity of ego.   Yes, all Presidents (and anyone in a position of real power) must have a solid ego, and must feel that they should be in that position.  But there is a difference between having a healthy/large ego and being a Narcissist.   Obama does has a large ego, Trump shows real aspects of true Narcissism.  Ego good, Narcissism not.

**And no, I'm not an expert and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.  But anyone can read up on Narcissism disorder if they want to.

[swake]

This puzzles and alarms me somewhat.  How does he sound good or serious to anyone, in any amount of words?

He has come off as an egotistical tool for the last three or four decades, ever since the national media started paying more attention to him in the 1980s. 

I thought he was hilarious early on in the run up to the primaries because he was the proverbial "turd in the punch bowl".  I never dreamed he'd actually end up with the nomination.  I figured everyone would fall for Rubio's or Cruz' schtick.

I had Rubio pegged as the eventual winner from the start. He's young, good looking, well-spoken and well educated. He comes off as sharp and serious about the issues and seems likeable and empathetic. He's also Cuban and has a great family story. I don't agree with his politics at all so I wouldn't vote for him, but by all rational measures he's exactly the kind of guy people on the right should love and easily nominate. He even comes from a major swing state, a state he lost to a racist cheese puff ball who probably can't spell "Florida". I just don't get it. The Republican Party has lost its collective mind.

[erfalf]

I disagree, at least in the level of extremity of ego.   Yes, all Presidents (and anyone in a position of real power) must have a solid ego, and must feel that they should be in that position.  But there is a difference between having a healthy/large ego and being a Narcissist.   Obama does has a large ego, Trump shows real aspects of true Narcissism.  Ego good, Narcissism not.

**And no, I'm not an expert and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.  But anyone can read up on Narcissism disorder if they want to.

As I think was articulated by the email dump, the two parties are the same, one is just much more out in the open (about his narcissism that is). 

[erfalf]

I'm just going to leave this here.

https://news.grabien.com/story-watch-obama-refer-himself-119-times-during-hillary-nominatin

[heironymouspasparagus]

I'm just going to leave this here.

https://news.grabien.com/story-watch-obama-refer-himself-119-times-during-hillary-nominatin

Notice how Trump never said "God" during his convention appearances?

I think he is actually Lucifer Morningstar!     

Just kidding people...!!

Or am I...

[erfalf]

Notice how Trump never said "God" during his convention appearances?

I think he is actually Lucifer Morningstar!     

Just kidding people...!!

Or am I...

You laugh (I do too), but that's how this crap gets started.

Reporter: Well my source who I won't name (cause I made up) said Trump is in cahoots with Lucifer...

5 Twitter minutes later...

[heironymouspasparagus]

You laugh (I do too), but that's how this crap gets started.

Reporter: Well my source who I won't name (cause I made up) said Trump is in cahoots with Lucifer...

5 Twitter minutes later...

Someone on NPR was talking about how he didn't say 'God'.  I didn't hear all of him, so can't say for sure - what I did hear, he didn't say it.

The rest is mine!!


And if anyone wants to use it, feel free - the more people believe Trump is Satan, the better for the country!  At least with Hillary, we got a chance in 4 years to get a better one, slim though that chance may be....

[Hoss]

You laugh (I do too), but that's how this crap gets started.

Reporter: Well my source who I won't name (cause I made up) said Trump is in cahoots with Lucifer...

5 Twitter minutes later...

He plagiarized that line from Dr. Batsh...err...Dr. Carson.

Meanwhile....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/post-reporter-barred-patted-down-by-police-at-rally-for-trump-running-mate/2016/07/28/dffbd2c8-5465-11e6-bbf5-957ad17b4385_story.html

[Vashta Nerada]

Quote from: cannon_fodder on July 22, 2016, 07:43:54 am
Claim: The number of police officers killed in the line of duty has risen by almost 50% compared to this point last year.
Fact: 8%

I already commented on how this is likely very accurate.

The nonprofit Marshall Project, which focuses on criminal justice reform...notes the small sample size and that the number of officers killed remains lower than during the 1970s into this decade.

And as others note, the number of civilians killed by police is roughly 10 times higher in any given period.
http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/latest-columns/20160729-the-false-equivalence-of-officers-shooting-vs.-officers-being-shot.ece