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Started by Conan71, November 09, 2016, 10:24:31 AM

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heironymouspasparagus

#3015
April 30, 2018, 11:30:01 AM
Financial hardship waiver... From Pruitt's EPA.


For Carl Icahn, billionaire buddy of Trump.  No surprises here...


https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/f172dbe1-1ef4-3f30-ada1-88ff555fa17d/ss_epa-grants-waiver-to-oil.html

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

#3016
April 30, 2018, 01:09:21 PM
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Conan71

#3017
April 30, 2018, 03:30:35 PM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 30, 2018, 11:30:01 AM
Financial hardship waiver... From Pruitt's EPA.


For Carl Icahn, billionaire buddy of Trump.  No surprises here...


https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/f172dbe1-1ef4-3f30-ada1-88ff555fa17d/ss_epa-grants-waiver-to-oil.html



This story goes a good deal more in depth and it sounds like it's the Big Oil Lobby, which Trump's admin is friendly to vs. the Bio Fuels Lobby which Obama's was friendly to.

QuoteBut the exemption for CVR's Wynnewood, Oklahoma, plant prompted fresh criticism from the powerful corn lobby, which already has accused Trump's EPA of overusing the hardship waiver program in a way that hurts demand for ethanol.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-u-epa-grants-biofuels-111226717.html

Yes, a "financial hardship waiver" does sound incongruous going to a billionaire but his money is not necessarily the corporate entities money and vice-versa.

There's a lot more to the entire story than the snippet story the published which you referenced. 
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

heironymouspasparagus

#3018
April 30, 2018, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on April 30, 2018, 03:30:35 PM
This story goes a good deal more in depth and it sounds like it's the Big Oil Lobby, which Trump's admin is friendly to vs. the Bio Fuels Lobby which Obama's was friendly to.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-u-epa-grants-biofuels-111226717.html

Yes, a "financial hardship waiver" does sound incongruous going to a billionaire but his money is not necessarily the corporate entities money and vice-versa.

There's a lot more to the entire story than the snippet story the published which you referenced. 


I know.  Here is some more..but most will have "eyes glaze over"....that link is copied directly from Reuters. 

Since most won't do an in depth dive, that first post was a good starting point.  More in depth info is also available at Reuters (a real business publication).   

Andeavor isn't exactly a small refinery - actually one of the largest.  I can see how they would suffer "disproportionate economic hardship" with only $1.5 billion in profits.  And they got a Trump/Pruitt waver...

Previous President's like Bush and Obama gave out between 5 and 10 a year.  Trump/Pruitt has given out more than a couple dozen first year.  There aren't that many small refineries suffering economic hardship in the country.

And it must only be coincidental that Icahn is also under investigation for conflict of interest. 

And CVR made an "unusual" amount of profit with this sweetheart deal they got.  But 'no collusion'...I can hear it now...


And here is the corn farmer side of it...

https://www.iowaagribusinessradionetwork.com/epa-waivers-biggest-assault-on-rfs-to-date/


Reuter's

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biofuels-epa-icahn/exclusive-u-s-epa-grants-biofuels-waiver-to-billionaire-icahns-oil-refinery-sources-idUSKBN1I10YB




"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

cannon_fodder

#3019
May 01, 2018, 09:13:22 AM Last Edit: May 01, 2018, 09:25:33 AM by cannon_fodder
Muller sent a list of questions to Trump to review, in an effort to get the President to live up to his statements that he wants to sit down with the investigators for an interview. Worth noting that they were leaked after being provided to the President... it seems like the White House is a sieve.

In spite of angry tweets to the contrary, the questions do not paint a vague or distant picture of what the investigation is looking into.  I'm sure Trump's legal team recognizes this, I'm not Sure the President understands the implicit Threat in the questions or he'd probably SLOW DOWN the twitter Fingers (random capitalization because I just Read Trump tweets and it Felt appropriate).


A sampling:

What did you know about phone calls that Mr. Flynn made with the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak, in late December 2016?

After the resignations, what efforts were made to reach out to Mr. Flynn about seeking immunity or possible pardon?

What did you mean when you told Russian diplomats on May 10, 2017, that firing Mr. Comey had taken the pressure off?

What was the purpose of the September and October 2017 statements, including tweets, regarding an investigation of Mr. Comey?

Did you discuss whether Mr. Sessions would protect you, and reference past attorneys general?

What discussions did you have regarding terminating the special counsel, and what did you do when that consideration was reported in January 2018?

When did you become aware of the Trump Tower meeting?

What involvement did you have in the communication strategy, including the release of Donald Trump Jr.'s emails?

During the campaign, what did you know about Russian hacking, use of social media or other acts aimed at the campaign?

What knowledge did you have of any outreach by your campaign, including by Paul Manafort, to Russia about potential assistance to the campaign?

What did you know about communication between Roger Stone, his associates, Julian Assange or WikiLeaks?

What did you know during the transition about an attempt to establish back-channel communication to Russia, and Jared Kushner's efforts?

What do you know about a Ukrainian peace proposal provided to Mr. Cohen in 2017?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/us/politics/questions-mueller-wants-to-ask-trump-russia.html
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Hoss

#3020
May 01, 2018, 11:11:12 AM
Quote from: cannon_fodder on May 01, 2018, 09:13:22 AM
Muller sent a list of questions to Trump to review, in an effort to get the President to live up to his statements that he wants to sit down with the investigators for an interview. Worth noting that they were leaked after being provided to the President... it seems like the White House is a sieve.

In spite of angry tweets to the contrary, the questions do not paint a vague or distant picture of what the investigation is looking into.  I'm sure Trump's legal team recognizes this, I'm not Sure the President understands the implicit Threat in the questions or he'd probably SLOW DOWN the twitter Fingers (random capitalization because I just Read Trump tweets and it Felt appropriate).


A sampling:

What did you know about phone calls that Mr. Flynn made with the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak, in late December 2016?

After the resignations, what efforts were made to reach out to Mr. Flynn about seeking immunity or possible pardon?

What did you mean when you told Russian diplomats on May 10, 2017, that firing Mr. Comey had taken the pressure off?

What was the purpose of the September and October 2017 statements, including tweets, regarding an investigation of Mr. Comey?

Did you discuss whether Mr. Sessions would protect you, and reference past attorneys general?

What discussions did you have regarding terminating the special counsel, and what did you do when that consideration was reported in January 2018?

When did you become aware of the Trump Tower meeting?

What involvement did you have in the communication strategy, including the release of Donald Trump Jr.'s emails?

During the campaign, what did you know about Russian hacking, use of social media or other acts aimed at the campaign?

What knowledge did you have of any outreach by your campaign, including by Paul Manafort, to Russia about potential assistance to the campaign?

What did you know about communication between Roger Stone, his associates, Julian Assange or WikiLeaks?

What did you know during the transition about an attempt to establish back-channel communication to Russia, and Jared Kushner's efforts?

What do you know about a Ukrainian peace proposal provided to Mr. Cohen in 2017?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/us/politics/questions-mueller-wants-to-ask-trump-russia.html

I'm guessing his legal team leaked it.  I love how Trump assumes the office of the SC (in this case stands for Special Counsel..or is it Council? LOL) were the leakers.

heironymouspasparagus

#3022
May 01, 2018, 04:01:47 PM
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

#3023
May 01, 2018, 04:04:19 PM
What a bunch of woosies....snowflakes all bu$$hurt over a joke or two...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDbx1uArVOM

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Ed W

#3024
May 01, 2018, 05:21:53 PM
You missed a couple of important questions.

What is six times nine?

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

patric

#3025
May 01, 2018, 07:14:26 PM
Quote from: Ed W on May 01, 2018, 05:21:53 PM
You missed a couple of important questions.

What is six times nine?

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
African or European swallow?

The biggest leaker in the WH is the guy who impersonated a publicist in order to feed fake news to reporters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-alter-ego-barron/2016/05/12/02ac99ec-16fe-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

cannon_fodder

#3026
May 02, 2018, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: Ed W on May 01, 2018, 05:21:53 PM
What is six times nine?

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

54 and 24mph, respectively.
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heironymouspasparagus

#3027
May 07, 2018, 11:50:57 AM
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Breadburner

#3028
May 07, 2018, 05:39:32 PM
The Butt-Hurt is still strong...You guys should have some bracelets made ala Lance Armstrong....
 

heironymouspasparagus

#3029
May 07, 2018, 09:17:16 PM
Quote from: Breadburner on May 07, 2018, 05:39:32 PM
The Butt-Hurt is still strong...You guys should have some bracelets made ala Lance Armstrong....


As the head of the Butt-Hurt brigade, even you must finally realize that Trump is guilty - he has admitted it himself.  His official legal representative now says that Trump is considering taking the 5th.  Which, as Trump has said repeatedly, is a direct admission of guilt.  

"The mob takes the Fifth Amendment.  If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"   -- Donald Trump.

Adding, pleading the Fifth is "disgraceful."   One of Trumps 'strengths' as we have seen for decades - being disgraceful.


And Giuliani is strongly implying that Trump would lie (no surprise there) if questioned by Mueller, rhetorically asking, "I'm going to walk him into a prosecution for perjury like Martha Stewart?"   Well no, Rudy, you wouldn't be doing that if he would tell the truth... but we know that ain't gonna happen.


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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