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Started by Conan71, November 09, 2016, 10:24:31 AM

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patric

Quote from: erfalf on January 04, 2018, 07:06:09 PM
It's against the law to smoke pot. At least he's not being derelict in his duties as chief law enforcement officer, at least in this one regard anyhow.

I also seem to remember someone saying that "elections have consequences..." Run a better candidate and you don't have to worry about not having AG's who ignore the law at every turn.

Cherry-picking is dereliction.

Trump campaigned on the promise that it was a states rights issue.
Sessions was confirmed on the promise he would keep his hands off.

Lies and corruption are hallmarks of the "war on drugs."
If I were one of the states using cannabis sales to stay out of debt, pay for schools and roads and, yes, finance law enforcement, I would be thinking about cutting back my cooperation with the feds.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

erfalf

Quote from: patric on January 05, 2018, 10:00:14 AM
Cherry-picking is dereliction.

Trump campaigned on the promise that it was a states rights issue.
Sessions was confirmed on the promise he would keep his hands off.

Lies and corruption are hallmarks of the "war on drugs."
If I were one of the states using cannabis sales to stay out of debt, pay for schools and roads and, yes, finance law enforcement, I would be thinking about cutting back my cooperation with the feds.

It just seems that what is being cherry picked is irritating to you. They all do it. It's a political play just like all of them do. Personally I want them to enforce all the laws. If a law is unjust, it should be changed, not just ignored or irrationally applied.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

swake

Quote from: erfalf on January 04, 2018, 07:06:09 PM
It's against the law to smoke pot. At least he's not being derelict in his duties as chief law enforcement officer, at least in this one regard anyhow.

I also seem to remember someone saying that "elections have consequences..." Run a better candidate and you don't have to worry about not having AG's who ignore the law at every turn.

Jeffrey Beauregard "I cannot recall anything about Russia" Sessions and Donald "If I'm talking, I'm lying" Pedo Trump are the moral and law and order types?

JFC, get outta here with that nonsense. And on the way out make sure you have your wallet, because Trump might have stolen it.

erfalf

Quote from: swake on January 05, 2018, 10:18:49 AM
Jeffrey Beauregard "I cannot recall anything about Russia" Sessions and Donald "If I'm talking, I'm lying" Pedo Trump are the moral and law and order types?

JFC, get outta here with that nonsense. And on the way out make sure you have your wallet, because Trump might have stolen it.

Not sure if you all are aware but you all are making some pretty strong cases for state's rights. Bunch of racists you are.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

heironymouspasparagus

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

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Quote from: erfalf on January 05, 2018, 10:15:41 AM
It just seems that what is being cherry picked is irritating to you. They all do it. It's a political play just like all of them do. Personally I want them to enforce all the laws. If a law is unjust, it should be changed, not just ignored or irrationally applied.

It could also be the morals and ethics of the picker, who thought the KKK was just swell until he heard they used marijuana... or that he cant differentiate between cannabis and opium.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/01/05/why-jeff-sessions-marijuana-crackdown-is-going-to-make-legalization-more-likely

If you were hinting at Congress shirking their responsibility here, yes, they are a big part of the problem by sending mixed messages and just waiting for the lobbyists to tell them what to do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/01/07/why-it-is-time-for-sessions-to-go
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

Watch the whole 12 minutes if you have the fortitude.  Trump's advisor replies to every question with "my boss is swell, did you say something?"
CNN says security had to walk him out of the building.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/01/07/white-house-adviser-stephen-miller-full-interview-sotu.cnn
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Hoss

Quote from: patric on January 07, 2018, 11:27:11 PM
Watch the whole 12 minutes if you have the fortitude.  Trump's advisor replies to every question with "my boss is swell, did you say something?"
CNN says security had to walk him out of the building.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/01/07/white-house-adviser-stephen-miller-full-interview-sotu.cnn

I nearly spit out my coffee this morning reading this.  That guy is a prototypical at-any-cost-Trump-supporter.  Isn't he the one who said "Trump's authority won't be questioned"?  Don't dictators talk like that?

hello

Quote from: patric on January 07, 2018, 11:27:11 PM
Watch the whole 12 minutes if you have the fortitude.  Trump's advisor replies to every question with "my boss is swell, did you say something?"
CNN says security had to walk him out of the building.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/01/07/white-house-adviser-stephen-miller-full-interview-sotu.cnn

CNN is trash. They knew exactly what they were getting with Miller, which is why they gave him a forum to spew his disgusting propaganda. CNN only cares about ratings and money. They gave Trump a platform when it was profitable and now taking him down is profitable. Disappointed in Tapper.
 

heironymouspasparagus

On a closely related note - closely since the RWRE is hell bent on destroying Social Security.

The financial number facts in this are true - where it goes careening off the edge into the abyss is when it starts down the path of "better planning"....  The percentages shown also happen to correspond to the lowest income groups in the country - the ones who cannot afford to save for retirement like this wants one to believe.   No amount of "planning" can plan you out of a hole thousands of dollars a year deep.

And the people in charge right this minute want to destroy the Social Security system... Even though it pays it's own way and not only takes nothing from the Federal budget, but has been financing these guys screw ups for decades by putting the SS trust fund in T bills. Well played Right Wing Extremists - people like Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, etc... screw the system and blame the screwees for not "planning" well enough.


https://vimeo.com/122576855

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Hoss


heironymouspasparagus

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Hoss



patric

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/08/how-to-attack-the-media-like-stephen-miller-in-3-easy-steps

    TAPPER: If you would let me — if you would let me ask — if you would let me ask this question.

    MILLER: No, because you have . . .

    TAPPER: The president . . .

    MILLER: You get 24 hours of negative, anti-Trump, hysterical coverage on this network . . .

    TAPPER: Okay.

    MILLER: . . . that led in recent weeks to some spectacularly embarrassing false reporting from your network.

    TAPPER: I think — I think the viewers right now can ascertain who is being hysterical.

    MILLER: No, the viewers are entitled . . .

    TAPPER: My — my . . .

    MILLER: . . . to have three months [sic] of the truth. Why don't you just give me three minutes to tell you the truth of the Donald Trump that I know and that all of our campaign knows?

See what Miller did there? Here's how to replicate it: Try to change the subject. When the interviewer interrupts, in an effort to get back on topic, angrily allege that you are being stopped from speaking "truth."

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum