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Started by Conan71, November 09, 2016, 10:24:31 AM

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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: erfalf on January 19, 2018, 12:54:30 PM
Misunderstand, misguided, and distracted.


Don't forget your 'projection' machine...

Yes.  You are.  It's called reality.  Not Fake Fox News BS.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

TeeDub

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on January 19, 2018, 03:23:58 PM

Don't forget your 'projection' machine...

Yes.  You are.  It's called reality.  Not Fake Fox News BS.



I think you forgot to throw pedophile back out...  Isn't that standard practice when you start to lose your argument.   Divert and change the subject.

Hoss

Quote from: TeeDub on January 19, 2018, 03:49:35 PM
I think you forgot to throw pedophile back out...  Isn't that standard practice when you start to lose your argument.   Divert and change the subject.

Hmm...who in the White House does that?  Current occupant maybe?

guido911

Ace has the perfect headline for this truth.

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Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: erfalf on January 19, 2018, 12:54:30 PM
Misunderstand, misguided, and distracted. Par for the course. Bill Bob just wanted to keep his hands clean. Bush was a man and told them to F-Off this is what we are doing. And what we did in reality was far less harsh than what non-Geneva convention countries do to their detainees. All of ours could at least walk out under their own strength. Only your warped mind can twist that into making bush out as some war criminal and Clinton as a saint. Well, well, well, Bush was worse. You sound just as childish and petulant as the strawman you take down in every one of your arguments.


So instead of actually addressing the points made - because deep down inside, you know they are all true - you stutter, stagger-step, and dance around, then call names.  Classic Fake Fox News method. 

And then try to rationalize our - meaning Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld - criminal activities by saying, ...but, but, but,..."what we did in reality was far less harsh than what non-Geneva convention countries do to their detainees".  So our war crimes are justified because some others do it worse.  As noted earlier - we hunted down MANY Japanese POW camp practitioners of water-boarding and executed them.  Don't wanna address real points, do you?  Skate Away....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQBKUPwG_Gk


We SAY we are a country the goes by rule of law.  We are not.  We go by rationalizations, falsehoods, and attempted justifications.  Like you just did.  Again.

And your casting aspersions and lying about what I said...well, that is just more of the same.  I have NEVER said, implied, expressed, or thought that Billy Bob was a saint.  So you are flat out lying.  Like Fake Fox News taught you.

And I have expressed in the past that I don't really like him (or Hillary), but given the choice of two evils, use some perspective and always choose the lessor.  Again, as I have said repeatedly here. 








"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

erfalf

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on January 20, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
We SAY we are a country the goes by rule of law.  We are not.  We go by rationalizations, falsehoods, and attempted justifications.  Like you just did.  Again.

And your casting aspersions and lying about what I said...well, that is just more of the same.  I have NEVER said, implied, expressed, or thought that Billy Bob was a saint.  So you are flat out lying.  Like Fake Fox News taught you.

When in the you know what have I ever said or impliled either of those things above which you claim I did?

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on January 20, 2018, 02:45:05 PM

So instead of actually addressing the points made - because deep down inside, you know they are all true - you stutter, stagger-step, and dance around, then call names.  Classic Fake Fox News method.


So instead of actually addressing the points made - because deep because deep down inside, you know they are all true - you stutter, stagger-step, and dance around, then call names.  Classic I don't know pancakes method.

I suggested what Bush did was better than the tactic that Clinton did. Nothing more, nothing less. I credited Bush with being more of a man about it. Just an opinion. No where (ever) did I ever claim the things you say I did.

Again, ignore, misquote, misread, distracted and misguided.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Ed W

Since Trump lies so frequently, often about things that are easily disproven, I have to wonder if he lies about his golf scores.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

rebound

Quote from: Ed W on January 21, 2018, 08:12:22 AM
Since Trump lies so frequently, often about things that are easily disproven, I have to wonder if he lies about his golf scores.

That topic has been discussed quite a bit in golfing circles.  General reporting is that while he is a solid golfer, he routinely improves his lie, bumps the ball, takes mulligans, etc, that result in lower scores.  I don't know if that's actually cheating per se, but it is definitely lying about his score.
 

Conan71

Quote from: rebound on January 21, 2018, 11:13:40 AM
That topic has been discussed quite a bit in golfing circles.  General reporting is that while he is a solid golfer, he routinely improves his lie, bumps the ball, takes mulligans, etc, that result in lower scores.  I don't know if that's actually cheating per se, but it is definitely lying about his score.

Love the double entendre' there.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

erfalf

Quote from: rebound on January 21, 2018, 11:13:40 AM
That topic has been discussed quite a bit in golfing circles.  General reporting is that while he is a solid golfer, he routinely improves his lie, bumps the ball, takes mulligans, etc, that result in lower scores.  I don't know if that's actually cheating per se, but it is definitely lying about his score.

Winter rules you know...  ;)
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

rebound

Quote from: Conan71 on January 21, 2018, 11:31:44 AM
Love the double entendre' there.

Man, I wish I could say I did that on purpose.   :)

 

patric

"I have a message for Cadet Bone Spurs: If you cared about our military, you'd stop baiting (North Korean leader) Kim Jong Un into a war that could put 85,000 American troops and millions of innocent civilians in danger."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-duckworth-trump-draft-dodger-20180121-story.html


"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: rebound on January 21, 2018, 11:13:40 AM
That topic has been discussed quite a bit in golfing circles.  General reporting is that while he is a solid golfer, he routinely improves his lie, bumps the ball, takes mulligans, etc, that result in lower scores.  I don't know if that's actually cheating per se, but it is definitely lying about his score.


His type of behavior in golf is so widely spread that people have become inured.   It is cheating.  It is lying.  It is what he does the best.  And all he does.  And yet, his Minions dismiss it, rationalize it, justify it, and do a collective "shrug" of ignorance about it.   And use it to try to deflect when they do it by saying something to the effect of "well, they/he/she did it worse than that..."



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

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Quote from: TeeDub on January 19, 2018, 03:49:35 PM
I think you forgot to throw pedophile back out...  Isn't that standard practice when you start to lose your argument.   Divert and change the subject.


Lol...keep trying.  Projection and deflection is what the extremist right does - what erfalf is trying to do.  The subject is the same - Trump's bad behavior on a wide variety of fronts.

You wanna get in on it - you have read the posts - what is YOUR rationalization/excuse for Trump?   Not a sound bite reply, but a real contribution.  Got one??


Conan can usually be a good example of response/reply.  He doesn't just spew a sound bite, then jump to disparaging/insulting, etc.  He thinks things through and comes back with substance.  Try it.


Since YOU brought up President Pedo this time - let me pose one very specific, very limited in scope question - what do you feel or what would you call the actions of a 60 year old man who intentionally, repeatedly, with prurient intent as evidenced by past behavior, walks into a room full of dozens of naked and half-dressed 15, 16, and 17 year old girls??   Not just once but at several different pageants.



To me, it is patently obvious as a side note to his pedophilia that even a variety of porn stars, including one he married, just don't quite fill the 'need'.  This is also the guy who made comments about dating his daughter.  Anyone else out there have thoughts like that?  There is also a name for that.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

erfalf

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on January 21, 2018, 03:25:11 PM

Lol...keep trying.  Projection and deflection is what the extremist right does - what erfalf is trying to do.  The subject is the same - Trump's bad behavior on a wide variety of fronts.

You wanna get in on it - you have read the posts - what is YOUR rationalization/excuse for Trump?   Not a sound bite reply, but a real contribution.  Got one??


Conan can usually be a good example of response/reply.  He doesn't just spew a sound bite, then jump to disparaging/insulting, etc.  He thinks things through and comes back with substance.  Try it.


Since YOU brought up President Pedo this time - let me pose one very specific, very limited in scope question - what do you feel or what would you call the actions of a 60 year old man who intentionally, repeatedly, with prurient intent as evidenced by past behavior, walks into a room full of dozens of naked and half-dressed 15, 16, and 17 year old girls??   Not just once but at several different pageants.



To me, it is patently obvious as a side note to his pedophilia that even a variety of porn stars, including one he married, just don't quite fill the 'need'.  This is also the guy who made comments about dating his daughter.  Anyone else out there have thoughts like that?  There is also a name for that.





I'm sure he is a pervy old man as are many that serve us all, however at least do yourself a favor and present some verifiable events as evidence of such. Otherwise you, again, are no better than the Faux News style of news that you are projecting all over the f'ing place.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/oct/18/allegations-about-donald-trump-and-miss-teen-usa-c/

As for me, it's just a hunch based on his lifestyle choices. And considering how Hollywood is exploding right now, I'm sure Trump truly is "par" for the course, so to say. And as much as Hollywood and D.C. are so intertwined, I am not the least bit surprised that we have elected officials less the stellar records when it comes to morals. Unfortunately we aren't exactly presented with an alternative that often. At least Trump isn't a hypocrite when it comes to his lifestyle. At no point as he ever tried to paint himself as the righteous one or something like that.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper