President Trump- The Implications

[guido911]

Yeah, great move. Iran is far, far more dangerous than North Korea and now they can go back to building a bomb. Also this pisses off our allies, will drive up gas prices and Boeing is about to lose a $20 billion deal for planes.

And it also pisses off the Iranians. You know, these guys whose side you are on.




https://www.rt.com/news/426258-death-to-america-iranian-parliament/

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And it also pisses off the Iranians. You know, these guys whose side you are on.




https://www.rt.com/news/426258-death-to-america-iranian-parliament/

How exactly am I "on their side" when I say they are more dangerous that North Korea? It's better for us for them to not have nuclear weapons and to bind them into the world economy.

[BKDotCom]

Everyone else is pissed off, so we must be #winning!

That's not how things work.
It's not a zero-sum game.
like guido said.  It'd be best for everyone if Iran doesn't have nuclear capability / contributes to world economy

[heironymouspasparagus]

Paul Ryan is Catholic.  Just sayin'

Yeah.  Lapsed Catholic.  Obviously.  Catering to the tea party Evangelistas.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Everyone else is pissed off, so we must be #winning!

That's not how things work.
It's not a zero-sum game.
like guido said.  It'd be best for everyone if Iran doesn't have nuclear capability / contributes to world economy

And yet, now we are back to encouraging the making them nuclear capable.  And obstructing them from contributing to world economy.  Standard Trump.

And if everyone else is pissed off, then maybe we should be pulling our heads out a little bit to try to figure out why, instead of celebrating and reveling in our collective ignorance.   Well, we know why...but you get the idea.


It's all about the spite... the outrage of having a black man in the white house.  Physically, spiritually, intellectually.

[heironymouspasparagus]

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Full blown, bat-sh$t crazy - even more than normal - with overtones of immorality, low values, with endorsement and advocacy of criminal activity.   NRA elects Oliver North as next President of the organization!!


It is unlikely to make me resign my Lifetime membership, but I have called (they didn't really care...) to express my displeasure.  This is temporary and hopefully they will change soon to get someone with less criminal background.

[erfalf]

Yeah, great move. Iran is far, far more dangerous than North Korea and now they can go back to building a bomb. Also this pisses off our allies, will drive up gas prices and Boeing is about to lose a $20 billion deal for planes.

Not able to connect the dots on the Boeing deal huh?

[Oil Capital]

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Full blown, bat-sh$t crazy -

But enough about you.

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Not able to connect the dots on the Boeing deal huh?

Oh, please do share.

[erfalf]

Oh, please do share.

It's enough to condemn others (Trump), but you find no coincidences in the fact that ONLY Boeing is allowed to negotiate with Iran post deal. Obama is never susceptible to corporate cronies and he would never do a deal that essentially amounted to a hand shake between the Iranian leadership (which technically they didn't sign) and a now private citizen.

[swake]

It's enough to condemn others (Trump), but you find no coincidences in the fact that ONLY Boeing is allowed to negotiate with Iran post deal. Obama is never susceptible to corporate cronies and he would never do a deal that essentially amounted to a hand shake between the Iranian leadership (which technically they didn't sign) and a now private citizen.

Only Boeing? Boeing got a $20 billion deal and Airbus got a $17 billion deal to replace the aging planes in the Iranian state airline. Both deals are now dead. They are the only large airliner manufacturers in the world. There are no others. 

So what on earth are you talking about now?

[dbacksfan 2.0]

Only Boeing? Boeing got a $20 billion deal and Airbus got a $17 billion deal to replace the aging planes in the Iranian state airline. Both deals are now dead. They are the only large airliner manufacturers in the world. There are no others.  

So what on earth are you talking about now?

Won't affect Boeing at all. They have not even started production of them. Their stock was up $6.00 today and $22.00 since last week.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Boeing Co's (BA.N) chief executive said on Wednesday the company will ensure its 737 production will not be hurt after the United States revoked its license to sell jets to IranAir and that none of the 737 aircraft it had expected to sell to Iran were in its backlog of orders.

Dennis Muilenburg, who spoke at a luncheon for the Economic Club in Washington, also said the company continued to make progress in talks with Brazil's Embraer SA (EMBR3.SA), adding the deal is not something Boeing "must do."

U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said on Tuesday that licenses for Boeing Co and Airbus (AIR.PA) to sell passenger jets to Iran would be revoked as part of sanctions imposed following President Donald Trump's decision to pull the United States out of the 2015 Iran nuclear agreement.

IranAir had ordered 200 passenger aircraft: 100 from Airbus SE (AIR.PA), 80 from Boeing and 20 from Franco-Italian turboprop maker ATR. All the deals are dependent on U.S. licenses because of the heavy use of American parts in commercial planes.

Regarding the Brazilian deal, Boeing and Embraer were discussing a tie-up to create a new company in which the U.S. planemaker would have an 80.01 percent stake and the Brazilian firm 19.99 percent.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeing-ceo-says-end-iran-174514105.html

Boeing Co. Chief Executive Officer Dennis Muilenburg downplayed the loss of jetliner sales to Iranian air carriers caused by President Donald Trump's decision to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal.

Muilenburg said Wednesday that his company had not committed production slots for the Iranian orders of Boeing's 777 widebody and 737 MAX jetliners and would continue to "follow the U.S. government's lead" when it comes to Iran.

Shares rose as Muilenburg spoke during a luncheon event put on by the Economic Club of Washington, D.C. They were at $345.29, up 2.1 percent in New York trading at 1:28 p.m.

The Trump administration moved Tuesday to reimpose sanctions on the Islamic Republic that had been lifted as part of a multinational nuclear pact negotiated during the Obama administration.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said on Tuesday the measures would include cancelling export licenses issued to Boeing and rival Airbus SE to sell about $40 billion worth of jetliners to Iranian carriers.

Muilenburg said it was "very important" that the cancellations applied to both companies, preserving "a level playing field."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-09/boeing-ceo-downplays-impact-of-trump-canceling-iran-licenses

[Ed W]

I don't understand why this agreement was dropped, other than Trump's circular logic that it's a bad deal because it's a bad deal. Has he offered any reasons, any facts at all?

Iran would have had unrestricted nuclear development capability in 2030. Trump has given them that now. How is that better?

[Conan71]

I don't understand why this agreement was dropped, other than Trump's circular logic that it's a bad deal because it's a bad deal. Has he offered any reasons, any facts at all?

Iran would have had unrestricted nuclear development capability in 2030. Trump has given them that now. How is that better?

It was always a bad deal.  I can't offer specifics, it just was.

[heironymouspasparagus]

But enough about you.

Lol....


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC3IxxYsIN8