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The American? ANYONE?!

Started by Johnboy976, January 15, 2006, 10:35:12 PM

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Ibanez

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Originally posted by TheArtist

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Originally posted by wavoka

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Originally posted by robbyfoxxxx

Wow, this is great news! By the time they raise 45 million dollars, the statue will cost 100 million dollars to build, High five!
I bet that most investors got their money back, so Im guessing that they are closer to 0 dollars than the 20 million dollars that they said they raised. Great success!




What is your problem with the statue?




Very amateurish design.  The anatomy and stance were all wrong. When a person is in a certain position, some muscles are relaxed others tensed, move one part of the body and every other part moves however slightly in accordance. Those types of things are readily noticed by any artist worth his salt, even someone who hasn't studied like me.   What was with the leg being up like that?  Does anyone stand that way?  And why looking down with a ho hum blank expression while a giant eagle was landing on your arm? And the limp hand held up like that as if a butterfly were about to alight on his finger, why not a fist like any falconer or eagle hunter would have? It was just so wrong in so many ways. If you have ever studied art or sculpture or even just have the slightest eye for such things.  It also would have made us the laughing stock of the world art community, contemporary or classical. Figures its in Oklahoma.



Who cares what artists think? The statue isn't intended for them. It is intended to be a tourist attaction and 99% of the people who would come see it would not give a damn about the artistic correctness, or whatever you want to call it, of the statue.

robbyfoxxxx

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The Artist                          

Very amateurish design. The anatomy and stance were all wrong.  


Yes! The statue lacks expression and body language, he is just standing there.If it is to be the largest statue in the world(very doubtful), it needs a better design or a better artist. A design like that is not worthy of being the largest statue in the world, it is tacky,lacks character, and the design is  worthy as some backyard statue at best.

TheArtist

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Originally posted by wavoka

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Originally posted by TheArtist

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Originally posted by wavoka

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Originally posted by robbyfoxxxx

Wow, this is great news! By the time they raise 45 million dollars, the statue will cost 100 million dollars to build, High five!
I bet that most investors got their money back, so Im guessing that they are closer to 0 dollars than the 20 million dollars that they said they raised. Great success!




What is your problem with the statue?




Very amateurish design.  The anatomy and stance were all wrong. When a person is in a certain position, some muscles are relaxed others tensed, move one part of the body and every other part moves however slightly in accordance. Those types of things are readily noticed by any artist worth his salt, even someone who hasn't studied like me.   What was with the leg being up like that?  Does anyone stand that way?  And why looking down with a ho hum blank expression while a giant eagle was landing on your arm? And the limp hand held up like that as if a butterfly were about to alight on his finger, why not a fist like any falconer or eagle hunter would have? It was just so wrong in so many ways. If you have ever studied art or sculpture or even just have the slightest eye for such things.  It also would have made us the laughing stock of the world art community, contemporary or classical. Figures its in Oklahoma.



Who cares what artists think? The statue isn't intended for them. It is intended to be a tourist attaction and 99% of the people who would come see it would not give a damn about the artistic correctness, or whatever you want to call it, of the statue.



Its not just about artists.  People don't go to Philbrook to see crap, they dont go to Gilcrease to see kistch, they don't admire our grand, downtown churches, and buildings because they were poorly designed and the average person wouldn't know any better, etc. etc.  Could very well have been that the investors thought the statue was a bad design as well.
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

PonderInc

Instead of putting this ridiculous sculpture at our botanical gardens, why don't we group all of our most embarrassing attractions in one place? (I think this placement would also explain the guy's weird arm position.)  The botanical garden has the potential to be a beautiful and magnificent attraction, so lets keep this creepy, goofy and bizarre thing down there with all the other creepy, goofy and bizarre spectacles in town.

sgrizzle

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That would only work if he could pull a string and the prayer tower spin.

pmcalk

^I don't know about the location--someone might confuse The American with a 900' Jesus, and try and build a hospital or something.
 

sgrizzle

Oh, just got this update (sounds canned)


Mr./Ms. Grizzle,

The team is happy to advise that The American Project is alive and well. Yes, we have been very quiet for a number of months while we were
completing research and addressing some design issues that we believed were necessary to ensure the success of the Project. Since August, 2005
we have completed two focus group studies, an attendance study, and an economic impact study. The results of these studies all identified the
Project as not only a sound Project, but one with great potential for Tulsa and the state. We also introduced The American to the art world
at Art Expo in New York City in March of this year. Art Expo is the largest art show in the world. With regard to design, the artist and designer of the Project, Shan Gray, completed the 3.5 ft engineering prototype in February and has begun work on what will be called the Scan Master (a 6 ft engineering prototype of The American image) which will be the final image for enlargement to the over 200 ft monument. With the completion of the 3.5 ft image and the 6 ft Scan Master, certain design issues  are being addressed by the Structural engineers (i.e. fitting of the elevator shaft and stairwell inside the statue, etc.). While all of this work is very exciting and important to the Project, we realize it is not very tangible to the public. While we work on different aspects of the design, we continue to raise funds. When the funding is completed, we will have about a six-month start-up and then the public will be able to begin to see construction on the monument itself. Our goal is to have the monument and support facilities complete by January 2010.

Thank you so much for your interest in the Project. And if you have additional questions, please feel free to contact us.

Best regards,

RecycleMichael

Let's build a bunch of these guys all over town.

We could build 20 or 30 of them for the price of the Channels.
Power is nothing till you use it.

PonderInc

They should at least get sponsor money from the Sure Deoderant people...you know: "Raise your hand if you're Sure..."

TheArtist

Why is his foot up like that?
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

BKDotCom

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Originally posted by TheArtist

Why is his foot up like that?

He stepped in some gum.  I think he's standing on a rock/incline.

TheArtist

Hard to tell in that pic, but you may be right.  Looks like a lame attempt to add interest and "drama" to the form. Should make the rocks larger, or make it one large rock so that it doesnt look like there is somehow just a few slivers of rocks behind that one foot suggesting an incline?  If you were on an incline wouldnt both feet be on it? How is it that one foot is on an incline? I can see one foot being up on a rock. But you wouldn't purposefully or even casually stand like that with one heel up on some small rocks?


But my next question would be... Why is his wrist limp like that?
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

BKDotCom

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Originally posted by TheArtist
But my next question would be... Why is his wrist limp like that?
He's a gay native posing for the latest leather privates coverings catalog.

Chris

I think he's hitch-hiking and to get someone to give both you AND you eagle a ride you have to show a little leg. [:D]

Breadburner

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Originally posted by TheArtist

Why is his foot up like that?



He has a lil Captain in him...