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Started by Rico, May 10, 2006, 08:59:56 AM

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sgrizzle

Is jenks having mayoral elections anytime soon?

Just hoping.

aoxamaxoa

Me too. Wish I could vote there.

I have always reffered to Jenks as Jinx and ever since Oral plopped down there in the late 1960's looked at it as a community on the edge of darkness. Were it not for that high school football team it would be only the antique retail center of the midwest. Now, it's Tulsa's thorn.

swake

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Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

Me too. Wish I could vote there.

I have always reffered to Jenks as Jinx and ever since Oral plopped down there in the late 1960's looked at it as a community on the edge of darkness. Were it not for that high school football team it would be only the antique retail center of the midwest. Now, it's Tulsa's thorn.



Hey, bright guy, ORU is in Tulsa, not Jenks

aoxamaxoa

Well, it may have our zip, but for years they told the world they were located in Jenks Oklahoma. I think we wanted to distance ourselves from that 700 foot idol thing anyway.
So, we let it go.

You are correct. ORU is in Tulsa not Jenks. You don't need to build a bridge to get from here to there either.


swake

quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

Well, it may have our zip, but for years they told the world they were located in Jenks Oklahoma. I think we wanted to distance ourselves from that 700 foot idol thing anyway.
So, we let it go.

You are correct. ORU is in Tulsa not Jenks. You don't need to build a bridge to get from here to there either.





When did "they" say that? You are full of it yet again.

I have heard as long as I can recall that Oral and his "Six Flags over God" was at:

7777 S Lewis Ave, Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Find anything that says Jenks. Anything.

waterboy

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Originally posted by swake

quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

Well, it may have our zip, but for years they told the world they were located in Jenks Oklahoma. I think we wanted to distance ourselves from that 700 foot idol thing anyway.
So, we let it go.

You are correct. ORU is in Tulsa not Jenks. You don't need to build a bridge to get from here to there either.





When did "they" say that? You are full of it yet again.

I have heard as long as I can recall that Oral and his "Six Flags over God" was at:

7777 S Lewis Ave, Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Find anything that says Jenks. Anything.



Well, he's right about that Swake. It may have been before your time but there was a concerted effort by ORU to identify with Jenks. I think it was back in the late 70's. They even caused a lot of controversy by suggesting that Jenks change its name at one time because they felt most people were moving there because of the University. Led to the phrase, Jenks, America.

Otherwise he may still be full of it.[;)]

Vision 2025

The University did suggest the name be changed to "Riverside" and Jenks leadership suggested in response that the University change it's name to Jenks University.  

"Jenks America" predates all of this and goes way way back.
Vision 2025 Program Director - know the facts, www.Vision2025.info

Wrinkle

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Originally posted by Vision 2025

The University did suggest the name be changed to "Riverside" and Jenks leadership suggested in response that the University change it's name to Jenks University.  

"Jenks America" predates all of this and goes way way back.



That was one of the greatest political transactions of all time.

It was more than a 'suggestion' by Oral himself, hoping to exercise his power over the region at the time.

The Jenks resolution fired one back across the river in spectacular fashion.



Wrinkle

Didn't this whole south Yale bridge deal begin because no local government could come up with funding for a bridge?

Now, Mayor Taylor wants the City to do it?

If anyone should, it would seem to be a County Bond issue, but the City could do the same.

In either case, when needed, it should be FREE.

I figure that'd be 15-20 years from now at best.


sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by Wrinkle

Didn't this whole south Yale bridge deal begin because no local government could come up with funding for a bridge?

Now, Mayor Taylor wants the City to do it?

If anyone should, it would seem to be a County Bond issue, but the City could do the same.

In either case, when needed, it should be FREE.

I figure that'd be 15-20 years from now at best.





No local gov't has the funding to build a free bridge and neither IVI, Bixby or Jenks is willing to let Tulsa get any money for it, not even for a stop sign.

Wrinkle

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Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by Wrinkle

Didn't this whole south Yale bridge deal begin because no local government could come up with funding for a bridge?

Now, Mayor Taylor wants the City to do it?

If anyone should, it would seem to be a County Bond issue, but the City could do the same.

In either case, when needed, it should be FREE.

I figure that'd be 15-20 years from now at best.





No local gov't has the funding to build a free bridge and neither IVI, Bixby or Jenks is willing to let Tulsa get any money for it, not even for a stop sign.



We have to remember that neither IVI, Bixby or Jenks is in control. And, a bond issue would provide funding, when and if voted upon by those really involved.


Wrinkle

I was also wondering how the Aquarium and its' developer entered into the mix:

quote:
"pay off the debt of Jenks' Oklahoma Aquarium and reimburse the private developer's costs to this point."


We gave them $12 Million to pay off the original debt in Vision2025.

It's not like they don't charge admission.


RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by Wrinkle

I was also wondering how the Aquarium and its' developer entered into the mix:

quote:
"pay off the debt of Jenks' Oklahoma Aquarium and reimburse the private developer's costs to this point."

We gave them $12 Million to pay off the original debt in Vision2025.
It's not like they don't charge admission.



Very good question.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Wrinkle

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Originally posted by recyclemichael

quote:
Originally posted by Wrinkle

I was also wondering how the Aquarium and its' developer entered into the mix:

quote:
"pay off the debt of Jenks' Oklahoma Aquarium and reimburse the private developer's costs to this point."

We gave them $12 Million to pay off the original debt in Vision2025.
It's not like they don't charge admission.



Very good question.



Actually, I think the 'private developer's costs' part of this refers to IVI, which is even a worse idea.

Why would the CITY of Tulsa be paying money for a JENKS asset to begin with?


Breadburner

I would rather see a bridge cross the river at 41st......How bout 25 cents each way....I think it would sure help Tulsa alot more than the other toll bridge......