Inhofe: Global Warming Ppl, "The Third Reich"

[Chicken Little]

From the Tulsa World:

quote:  ...Is U.S. Sen. Jim Inhofe, who believes that manmade global warming is "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people," losing the public relations battle on that issue?

The Oklahoma Republican and chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee concedes that those on the other side of the global warming debate have dominated the air waves lately, but he remains confident that his side will be proved right in the end...  

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The article is just your normal Oklahoma Senatorial lunacy, but the really fun stuff is the lib comments at thinkprogress.org. Somebody calls him Senator Blutarsky, as in, "Zero. Point. Zero."

Holy crap, there's some grade-A snark there (over 150 posts!):

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"Senator, you are a dolt and an idiot.
As Earth becomes Hell, watch & learn.
You may have the perfect family, but all is naught when you decide most of the people I created are beneath you. I don't recall appointing you anyone's personal Ayatollah of Ethics, including he with the name of vegetation.  Beware! I am an angry God, & right now I'm really p*ssed at you.
See you Sunday,"
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"OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKLAHOMA!!!!!!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKLAHOMA!!!!!!!!
Citizens of Oklahoma, I beg of you, please just use some common sense next time you go to the polls. Both senators from your state are a national security threat."
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"Seriously, what the hell is wrong with the water in Oklahoma?!?! This is a serious question. I demand answers!!!"
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[SXSW]

When is the next senate election?  It can't come fast enough.  I can tolerate Coburn to an extent even though his strong pro-life/anti-gay agenda bothers me but Inhofe has lost all credibility.

[rwarn17588]

If Inhofe's so sure that global warming is a hoax, why doesn't he organize a debate against Al Gore, and we'll see who's more persuasive?

[sgrizzle]

I have trouble getting worked up over a 1 degree shift across 140yrs, especially when most of the "colder" times didn't have real instruments to measure.

[iplaw]

sgrizzle stop thinking NOW before you infect us all.

Debating Al Gore[|)]...zzzzzz...yaawwwnnn...oh, sorry...I fell asleep just thinking about it.  As if Al Gore is some sort of an expert, come on, at least suggest he debate a scientist or someone who is armed with something substantive to speak about.  That movie was nothing more than a 2 hour political campaign ad.

[rwarn17588]

Did you actually see the movie, iplaw?

[iplaw]

Yes, I sat through about 3/4 of it before I got up and went to the white lion to get a beer and wash the bad taste out of my mouth.

[Chicken Little]

There really is no scientific debate anymore about whether or not global warming is occurring.  Its also clear that greenhouse gasses are contributing to it.  You can check out the latest IPCC report if you doubt that.

Global warming is happening, and we are partly to blame, but there is still a debate as to whether this presents an imminent danger to us all.  Some of the stuff is clearly happening:  rising temparatures and melting ice.  But nobody can say for certain when the predicted nasty side effects (increased droughts and floods, rising sea levels, super-hurricanes, etc.) will start to happen.  Maybe they are happening already or maybe we won't see much more than slightly hotter temparatures for another 200 years.  Who really knows, it could already be too late to do anything about it.

Ultimately, its a value judgement.  Do you really want to change the way you live today in hopes that it might make a difference for your kids....or great-great-grandkids?  I do, but for me, its not just altruism.  

I think energy independence is important.  The middle east is awash in oil money, and IMO, there are groups and countries over there that present a much greater threat to us than global warming does currently.  Bush thought he could settle them down with a little forced "democracy", but now they're more riled than ever and likely to remain so for the foreseeable future.

If a few million windmills and solar panels can kill two birds with one stone, I'm all for it. Safer, cleaner, and all that...that's just good management in the long run.  Guys like Inhofe might be banking on the second coming, but I'm not.

[aoxamaxoa]

Saw Jimmy boy at a party the other night and was tempted to take him outside for a discussion and see if he sweats....I just could not get up for an attack on a guy I have been at odds with politically for years.
Then I decided that would be a waist of my time. Why spend the energy. He was a good mayor.

The sad thing was the guy looks great and will live forever aka Strom Thurman.

I wish the man a long life. He's the prince in the neo con den....

"For them, Afghanistan and Iraq will not suffice. They want to take out Syria and Iran, and speed full steam ahead towards World Wars III and IV. The Weekly Standard asks simply, "Why wait?"
According to Newt Gingrich, there is no need to wait at all. On Meet the Press this past Sunday he offered that the Israel-Hezbollah conflict "... is, in fact, World War III" and "the U.S. ought to be helping...."
And how might the US help fight Newt's World War? The Weekly Standard provides the answer: "It would be easier to act sooner rather than later. Yes, there would be repercussions - and they would be healthy ones, showing a strong America that has rejected further appeasement."
George Will - not exactly your run-of-the-mill, card-carrying liberal - describes the neocons as "so untethered from reality as to defy caricature."
But what has caused them to become so completely unhinged (even more so than before, if one can imagine that possibility)?
With the deteriorating occupation in Iraq and a resurgent Taliban in Afghanistan the neocons have been completely discredited. Meanwhile, the Bush administration is engaging in a "muddled multilateralism" - not quite pursuing diplomacy but not acting unilaterally at the whims of the Decider et al., either.
And this simply infuriates them. As Danielle Pletka of the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) told The Washington Post, "I don't have a friend in... any part of the conservative foreign policy establishment who is not beside themselves with fury at the administration."
Well, perhaps The Weekly Standard staffers, editors, and allies at the likes of AEI will harness some of their "fury", put on flak jackets and (poorly) funded armor (is there enough to go around after Iraq?), and go fight their own failed war in defense of their own failed ideology.
Meanwhile, the rest of us will remain here on this planet." http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut?bid=7&pid=103829

[Hometown]

quote:Originally posted by SXSW

When is the next senate election?  It can't come fast enough.  I can tolerate Coburn to an extent even though his strong pro-life/anti-gay agenda bothers me but Inhofe has lost all credibility.

Inhofe says incredibly backward things and then (at least he) secures some federal money for Oklahoma.  

Coburn says incredibly backward things and does nothing to secure federal money for Oklahoma.

Both are the worst of a party that has seen better days.

If anyone thinks the blue states laugh off Oklahoma I'm here to tell you that we are held personally responsible for a great deal of the nation's ills.

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

He was a good mayor.

Nuh-uh.  He was the guy that worked with development interests to deliver the Haikey Creek sewer plant, which allowed BA and South Tulsa to sprawl.  He is the godfather of the "good 'ole boys".  Tulsa's paying for his 25-year-old mistakes today.

[iplaw]

Oh, no more on Iraq please, I beg you.  I hate to tell you but I can't also cite to numerous experts who say that the human factor in global warming tenuous if not bogus.  Comes down to dueling experts, nothing more, but to say no scientific debate exists is a lie.  Just because one side of the debate declares it finished doesn't mean it's so.

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If a few million windmills and solar panels can kill two birds with one stone, I'm all for it.

It won't.  Nuclear is the only viable alternative, but it won't solve our vehicle fuel issue as the two are distinct problems.

[rwarn17588]

So it isn't viable for AEP-PSO to put up those wind turbines in the western part of the state?

Funny ... you'd think if it wasn't viable, they wouldn't be doing it.

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
If a few million windmills and solar panels can kill two birds with one stone, I'm all for it.

It won't.  Nuclear is the only viable alternative, but it won't solve our vehicle fuel issue as the two are distinct problems.

I'm pro-nuke.  And I'm pro squeezing every last drop of oil out of the ground around here, too.  But I think we should aim higher than that.  I'm also pro-denser, greener, cities so we don't waste energy.  There is no magic bullet.  And with energy prices the way they are, these are all viable alternatives.  If our country is going to remain on top for another 200 years, it'll be because we pioneered the technologies that lead to better efficiency, and safer, cleaner, renewable energy.  If China does it intstead, then we have only ourselves to blame.  I, for one, want a grand strategy.

Just throwing up a hundred nuke plants by themselves and declaring that "everything's fine" is not the solution, IMO.

[Breadburner]

How bout a lil gas-x for the cattle that should stop global warming in it's tracks....