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Started by Brownsfan68, September 19, 2006, 06:18:02 PM

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RecycleMichael

So...the small hole in the building was caused by termites?
Power is nothing till you use it.

iplaw

I'm gonna let him have a turn at this first before I smack this one.

Brownsfan68

Go ahead iplaw, I insist you go first.

iplaw

Nah.  I never take the first bite.  You are making the accusations so therefore you go first.  I primarily play defense, as I have no axe to grind by stating a conspiracy theory was involved in 9/11.

papaspot

quote:
Originally posted by Brownsfan68

What is the so-called "rational" point of view about the attacks?  I bet I can counter every single on of them!



he he [}:)]

Brownsfan68

you were the one who made a comment and spoke up  on my infowars.com thread.

Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by Brownsfan68

you were the one who made a comment and spoke up  on my infowars.com thread.



You threw the bait out there by starting this thread, so start fishing, bub.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

iplaw

If you don't have the courage to bring it to the table then this was easier than I though.  If you give up that easy you must not be too confident in your position.

papaspot

quote:
Originally posted by Brownsfan68

you were the one who made a comment and spoke up  on my infowars.com thread.



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Brownsfan68

Fine ,Ill start.   Why did it take so long for our fighter jets to respond to  the four hijacked planes flying off-course?

iplaw

First.  What evidence do you have that there were easily mobilized fighter jets that were "on call" waiting for something like this to happen?  Are you familiar with air force protocol regarding these types of situations?  I would love to see written policies on this from the air force or marines.

The facts are only 14 fighter jets were active on the US mainland on Spet 11.  We were not expecting an attack of this magnitude or dynamic variance.  Air traffic control was SNAFU and no sane pre 9/11 governmental official would have EVER sanctioned the downing of a commercial airliner, especially over a high density population area like DC or NYC.

You are seeing things in retrospect which is an unfair benefit allowing you to impose unreasonable standards looking backwards as to what "should" have happened on that day.

Here is a good synopsis from PM:

In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999. With passengers and crew unconscious from cabin decompression, the plane lost radio contact but remained in transponder contact until it crashed. Even so, it took an F-16 1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet. Rules in effect back then, and on 9/11, prohibited supersonic flight on intercepts. Prior to 9/11, all other NORAD interceptions were limited to offshore Air Defense Identification Zones (ADIZ). "Until 9/11 there was no domestic ADIZ," FAA spokesman Bill Schumann tells PM. After 9/11, NORAD and the FAA increased cooperation, setting up hotlines between ATCs and NORAD command centers, according to officials from both agencies. NORAD has also increased its fighter coverage and has installed radar to monitor airspace over the continent.

HoneySuckle

quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

I'm gonna let him have a turn at this first before I smack this one.




Relax, or they'll be closing this thread next.[:D]  I don't get it though. No matter how insulting some of you might be, I never take it personally.

I'm an AMERICAN citizen, but since I didn't vote for that chimp in the white house, I will continue referring to him as YOUR president to everyone who supports him.

 

iplaw

Huh?  I think you staggered into the wrong thread there Honey.  I think that topic got shut down.  This is good ol' fashioned CT smashing here.

HoneySuckle

quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

Huh?  I think you staggered into the wrong thread there Honey.  I think that topic got shut down.  This is good ol' fashioned CT smashing here.



Ooops, I didn't notice the subject heading. My bad[8D]
 

altruismsuffers

quote:
Originally posted by snopes

I don't think you want to jump into the pit with iplaw on this one Brownsfan, but, that is what this forum is all about. It would do you good to read up on some of those posts.

I have some concerns about potential conspiracis myself but I'm not willing to slug it out with iplaw. He's done his homework.



He has not done his homework...  He is just more thouroughly brainwashed by the official story then most.  FOR EXAMPLE... This quote:

"In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999. "

 is a COMPLETE LIE!

 Here is the procedures as requested by the almighty IPLAW FAA Interception Procedures

The military sent fighter jets to chase suspicious aircraft 462 times between Sept. 11 and June, nearly seven times as often as the 67 scrambles from the same period a year earlier.

 That is 67 times in less then one year!  Not 1 time since 1999... Get your facts straight man.

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