TPD add sticks to arsenal!

[Chicken Little]

and maybe kites?


From Tulsa World:

quote: Police add 'Stop Sticks' to arsenal of pursuit tactics
Tulsa police will soon have stop sticks -- spiked devices used to deflate the tires of vehicles during pursuits -- in every patrol car.

Forty-four of the devices are already available for use, but on Wednesday police officials will start distributing the 434 new ones they have bought to all patrol officers, Officer Jason Willingham said.

[okieinla]

Originally posted by Chicken Little

and maybe kites?



Beijing '08 Olympic hopeful?
Category: Rhythmic Gymnastics

[jdb]

Come on guys, don't you know Performance Art when you see it?

[patric]

(CBS) DAVIE, Fla. - A high-speed police chase near Miami ended with the suspect vehicle losing its rear tire and slamming into a palm tree.

Witnesses say the white Jeep's lone male driver was firing shots at police. Eventually officers were able to use a tire shredding device and the chase continued through the city of Davie in Broward County, Fla.

When the flat tire shredded, the driver lost control of the Jeep and it went off the road over a curb and slammed into a palm tree. The Jeep then overturned several times - finally coming to rest on the passenger side.  http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_326171056.html


(CBS4) DAVIE, FL A dramatic police chase through the streets of Davie ended with a horrible crash, caught on camera by Chopper 4, and the death of the suspect.
http://cbs4.com/video/?id=26075@wfor.dayport.com

After leaving I-95, the chase wound through residential streets in Davie with at least two exchanges of gunfire between Rosenbaum and police, said Lt. Bill Bamford, spokesman for the Davie Police Department.

At least a dozen schools - mostly elementary schools in and around Davie - were forced into lockdown during the chase.

The chase ended when Rosenbaum crashed a Jeep into a palm tree in the 3500 block of Davie Road, right across from the Institute of Public Safety, a police academy. The Jeep had a tire flattened by police spike sticks.

Bamford said Rosenbaum died after the crash, though it was unclear whether he died from the shootout, the crash or some other cause. The Broward County Medical Examiner is expected to determine a cause of death later today.   http://www.sun-sentinel.com/

[inteller]

Between stop sticks and the "pit maneuver"  cops cause more deaths in high speeds chases than the people they are chasing.  I missed the memo on death being the required outcome of speeding from a cop.

[MH2010]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

Between stop sticks and the "pit maneuver"  cops cause more deaths in high speeds chases than the people they are chasing.  I missed the memo on death being the required outcome of speeding from a cop.

Please cite your source(s) for this information.

[MH2010]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

Between stop sticks and the "pit maneuver"  cops cause more deaths in high speeds chases than the people they are chasing.  I missed the memo on death being the required outcome of speeding from a cop.

Please cite your source(s) for this information.

[inteller]

http://www.pursuitwatch.org/

start reading bucko.

[HVYCHVY]

I would have thought all the cars already had stopstick in their vehicles, wht have to wait for the officer to get into the chase before deploying the stopsticks?  

The way I look at it is, why are they running from the cops in the first place?  Most normal sane people pull over when they get 'lit up' Did they just rob a bank, do a drive by or are they afraid of violating their parole for dope or no license?  Sure, if the chase gets too dangerous, the cops should back off and let the helicopter follow them, while the units shadow the car being chased.  Untill the powers that be let the PD put some rifle rounds through their engine block, the only way some of them guys will stop is when they crash or their wheels fall apart, then they'll try to run to get away.

If they want to be all hardcore and take the chance of running from the law, then they need to accept the consequences of their actions, be they kill somebody, crash and burns, or looses their own life.

[MH2010]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

http://www.pursuitwatch.org/

start reading bucko.

"PursuitWatch does not support the abolition of police pursuits. PursuitWatch promotes safer pursuit policy and the elimination of unnecessary pursuits."

Mr. Phillips started pursuitwatch,org when his 20 year old daughter was killed as a result of a police pursuit. Since that time he has been quite active.  The Tulsa Police department has been cited several times on the website for progressive and forward thinking involving pursuits and pursuit policy. In fact, here is an article from Capt. Travis Yates that was featured on the website regarding the PIT technique.

http://pursuitwatch.org/stories/pit.htm

The website has also posted several other articles Capt. Yates has written. There are four under the link to "reader articles".

"Stop-sticks" are mentioned in several articles as a tool to help quickly stop pursuits. There are several articles on the site that mention them.

Maybe you should read some of the articles again. Reading comprehension may not be one of your strong points.

"Bucko"

[Kiah]

He probably doesn't have the manpower to comprehend completely.  That would take another 100 or so full time Intellers.

Sorry, I thought that was the standard response to any police-related topic.

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by Kiah

He probably doesn't have the manpower to comprehend completely.  That would take another 100 or so full time Intellers.

Sorry, I thought that was the standard response to any police-related topic.

He is worried about that unique vehicle of his getting damaged...You really don't see any Pacers on the road these days...So it tends to stand out and draw un-wanted attention....

[patric]

Another pit-maneuver related death:

"Gabriel Soberanos-Martinez, 32, of Tucson, Ariz., was killed Tuesday afternoon when the pickup truck he was riding in crashed at the end of the chase on a county road in Wash ita County just east of Elk City, troopers said Friday.

Trooper Cody Hyde was trying to stop the truck for failing to yield to an emergency vehicle when he used a tactical maneuver, which sent the truck into a ditch where it rolled, throwing Soberanos-Martinez from the vehicle then rolling on top of him, the OHP said."

The driver of the vehicle the trooper hit is being charged with the murder.  Funny, If I lost my temper at someone in my way, I'd be the one charged with road rage.    

[MH2010]

You forgot to mention that Troopers discovered approx. 180 pounds of marijuana in the truck after it crashed.

As far as the PITT maneuver is concerned, the US Supreme Court recently ruled.....


"A police officer's attempt to terminate a dangerous high-speed car chase that threatens the lives of innocent bystanders does not violate the Fourth Amendment, even when it places the fleeing motorist at risk of serious injury or death," - Scott Vs. Harris, US Supreme Court.

Furthermore, Supreme Court Judge Anthony Scalia also stated, "To adopt Stevens's position that the police knew Harris's license-plate number and could have arrested him later would create "perverse incentives," Scalia said, such as letting suspects know the best way to elude capture would be to "drive so recklessly that they put other people's lives in danger."

[patric]

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

You forgot to mention that Troopers discovered approx. 180 pounds of marijuana in the truck after it crashed.

No, I didnt forget, as that was information that was discovered long after the fact and had nothing to do with the trooper's decision to use deadly force.

Finding out Tuesday that someone didnt go to church on Sunday wouldnt justify me having peed in their coffee on Monday, would it?