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[Hometown]

Wednesday, November 29, 2006

To:  Tellitlikeitis / Davaz,

Thank you Davaz for your email and private messages.  You may recall that over a year ago we exchanged some emails and at that time I asked you what was the truth about your story and you denied that there was anything else to tell.  

I don't believe it would be productive for you and me to exchange any more private messages or emails.  I believe you should talk to the group.

Swake has given us his considered opinion about why you abruptly became so disillusioned with Tulsa that you sold your new home to relocate to Texas.

Would you please address Swake's statement?  

As for me, I don't believe you ever learned anything about Tulsa that you didn't already know.  I think you aren't telling us about an event or a series of events that led you to abandon Tulsa.  

I know that Tulsa has plenty of faults.  And I'm also very understanding of being human.  I'm ready to listen to your story.  I would appreciate it very much if you would come clean with me and the other folks here.

[jdb]

Now I really smell a rat.

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by jdb

Now I really smell a rat.

Naw, Hometown's legit. You smell a rat cause you live within a mile of the river! They get pretty big over here.

[tulitlikeitis]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

Wednesday, November 29, 2006

To:  Tellitlikeitis / Davaz,

Thank you Davaz for your email and private messages.  You may recall that over a year ago we exchanged some emails and at that time I asked you what was the truth about your story and you denied that there was anything else to tell.  

I don't believe it would be productive for you and me to exchange any more private messages or emails.  I believe you should talk to the group.

Swake has given us his considered opinion about why you abruptly became so disillusioned with Tulsa that you sold your new home to relocate to Texas.

Would you please address Swake's statement?  

As for me, I don't believe you ever learned anything about Tulsa that you didn't already know.  I think you aren't telling us about an event or a series of events that led you to abandon Tulsa.  

I know that Tulsa has plenty of faults.  And I'm also very understanding of being human.  I'm ready to listen to your story.  I would appreciate it very much if you would come clean with me and the other folks here.

The story is still the same;

1.   Davaz was born in Tulsa and educated in Tulsa Public Schools until mid high school.
2.   Davaz has a PhD in Engineering from a large out of state school.
3.   Davaz has lived in Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, NYC, London and Scottsdale
4.   Davaz retired from a large energy company at the executive level
5.   Davaz now works for himself trading bonds
6.   Davaz moved to Tulsa in late 2003 purchasing a home in the area between Woodward Park and Utica Square
7.   Davaz sold the home 8 months later and moved to Houston – reason was backwardness of Tulsa and OK in general
8.   Davaz now lives in the Uptown / Tanglewood area in Houston ... near our former President's house
9.   Davaz has never been in trouble with the law outside of a traffic ticket
10.   Davaz's decision to move had nothing to do with his mother in law (and she has never been a Baptist)
11.   Davaz's real name is not David Nalle ... what a joke!

And if you do not think Tulsa is backward, consider this for a moment. Can you imagine a group of civic minded types (like TulsaNow) in LA, NYC, Chicago, Denver, Portland, Washington etc fervently discussing pro's and con's of a crummy amusement park (eg, Bells)? I can't.

[papaspot]

quote:Originally posted by tulitlikeitis

The story is still the same;

1.   Davaz was born in Tulsa and educated in Tulsa Public Schools until mid high school.
2.   Davaz has a PhD in Engineering from a large out of state school.
3.   Davaz has lived in Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, NYC, London and Scottsdale
4.   Davaz retired from a large energy company at the executive level
5.   Davaz now works for himself trading bonds
6.   Davaz moved to Tulsa in late 2003 purchasing a home in the area between Woodward Park and Utica Square
7.   Davaz sold the home 8 months later and moved to Houston – reason was backwardness of Tulsa and OK in general
8.   Davaz now lives in the Uptown / Tanglewood area in Houston ... near our former President's house
9.   Davaz has never been in trouble with the law outside of a traffic ticket
10.   Davaz's decision to move had nothing to do with his mother in law (and she has never been a Baptist)
11.   Davaz's real name is not David Nalle ... what a joke! [M'thinks Mr. Davaz doth protest too much.]

And if you do not think Tulsa is backward, consider this for a moment. Can you imagine a group of civic minded types (like TulsaNow) in LA, NYC, Chicago, Denver, Portland, Washington etc fervently discussing pro's and con's of a crummy amusement park (eg, Bells)? I can't.

HEY, Skippy! Dincha read the SIGN?? What, are you above the rules?!



Now for the REAL story.

1. Davaz graduated without honors from a small suburban Texas high school
2. Davaz went one and a half semesters to a local community college but he dropped out because he couldn't afford to pay tuition AND buy dope
3. Davaz is the assistant night manager at a Jack-in-the-Box
4. Davaz fancies himself politician and a public leader but he's never been elected to any office because people consider him a joke (he's kind of a "Texas Tay")
5. Davaz spends his spare time (of which he has a lot because his wife dumped him a few years back and he can't get a girlfriend) trolling on message boards around the country
6. Davaz hates anyone who discusses any form of politics because he is himself a political reject
7. Davaz has a psychopathic (or psychopathetic) condition that causes him to suffer dillusions of grandeur
8. Davaz knows the people of every city in the U.S. discuss it's local interests on message boards but he tries to make a big issue of it because that's his facade d'jour
9. Davaz is a sad pathetic little man that hates people and has no friend in the world
10. Davaz has already proven himself a fraud by hiding behind almost a dozen different user names (if he's for real, why does he hide?)

Sound more believable? It sure does to me.

[tulitlikeitis]

quote:Originally posted by papaspot

quote:Originally posted by tulitlikeitis

The story is still the same;

1.   Davaz was born in Tulsa and educated in Tulsa Public Schools until mid high school.
2.   Davaz has a PhD in Engineering from a large out of state school.
3.   Davaz has lived in Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, NYC, London and Scottsdale
4.   Davaz retired from a large energy company at the executive level
5.   Davaz now works for himself trading bonds
6.   Davaz moved to Tulsa in late 2003 purchasing a home in the area between Woodward Park and Utica Square
7.   Davaz sold the home 8 months later and moved to Houston – reason was backwardness of Tulsa and OK in general
8.   Davaz now lives in the Uptown / Tanglewood area in Houston ... near our former President's house
9.   Davaz has never been in trouble with the law outside of a traffic ticket
10.   Davaz's decision to move had nothing to do with his mother in law (and she has never been a Baptist)
11.   Davaz's real name is not David Nalle ... what a joke! [M'thinks Mr. Davaz doth protest too much.]

And if you do not think Tulsa is backward, consider this for a moment. Can you imagine a group of civic minded types (like TulsaNow) in LA, NYC, Chicago, Denver, Portland, Washington etc fervently discussing pro's and con's of a crummy amusement park (eg, Bells)? I can't.

HEY, Skippy! Dincha read the SIGN?? What, are you above the rules?!



Now for the REAL story.

1. Davaz graduated without honors from a small suburban Texas high school
2. Davaz went one and a half semesters to a local community college but he dropped out because he couldn't afford to pay tuition AND buy dope
3. Davaz is the assistant night manager at a Jack-in-the-Box
4. Davaz fancies himself politician and a public leader but he's never been elected to any office because people consider him a joke (he's kind of a "Texas Tay")
5. Davaz spends his spare time (of which he has a lot because his wife dumped him a few years back and he can't get a girlfriend) trolling on message boards around the country
6. Davaz hates anyone who discusses any form of politics because he is himself a political reject
7. Davaz has a psychopathic (or psychopathetic) condition that causes him to suffer dillusions of grandeur
8. Davaz knows the people of every city in the U.S. discuss it's local interests on message boards but he tries to make a big issue of it because that's his facade d'jour
9. Davaz is a sad pathetic little man that hates people and has no friend in the world
10. Davaz has already proven himself a fraud by hiding behind almost a dozen different user names (if he's for real, why does he hide?)

Sound more believable? It sure does to me.

I can prove it all ... want to take a 10K$ bet? You name to the attorney to do document verification. Want to lose some money?

[USRufnex]

Wow... did we just get a Top 10 for Davaz refering to himself in the 3rd person?... cool.

Top Ten Most Ridiculous 3rd Person References
http://www.bigskydemocrats.org/node/249

[azbadpuppy]

quote:Originally posted by tulitlikeitis

quote:Originally posted by papaspot

quote:Originally posted by tulitlikeitis

The story is still the same;

1.   Davaz was born in Tulsa and educated in Tulsa Public Schools until mid high school.
2.   Davaz has a PhD in Engineering from a large out of state school.
3.   Davaz has lived in Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, NYC, London and Scottsdale
4.   Davaz retired from a large energy company at the executive level
5.   Davaz now works for himself trading bonds
6.   Davaz moved to Tulsa in late 2003 purchasing a home in the area between Woodward Park and Utica Square
7.   Davaz sold the home 8 months later and moved to Houston – reason was backwardness of Tulsa and OK in general
8.   Davaz now lives in the Uptown / Tanglewood area in Houston ... near our former President's house
9.   Davaz has never been in trouble with the law outside of a traffic ticket
10.   Davaz's decision to move had nothing to do with his mother in law (and she has never been a Baptist)
11.   Davaz's real name is not David Nalle ... what a joke! [M'thinks Mr. Davaz doth protest too much.]

And if you do not think Tulsa is backward, consider this for a moment. Can you imagine a group of civic minded types (like TulsaNow) in LA, NYC, Chicago, Denver, Portland, Washington etc fervently discussing pro's and con's of a crummy amusement park (eg, Bells)? I can't.

HEY, Skippy! Dincha read the SIGN?? What, are you above the rules?!



Now for the REAL story.

1. Davaz graduated without honors from a small suburban Texas high school
2. Davaz went one and a half semesters to a local community college but he dropped out because he couldn't afford to pay tuition AND buy dope
3. Davaz is the assistant night manager at a Jack-in-the-Box
4. Davaz fancies himself politician and a public leader but he's never been elected to any office because people consider him a joke (he's kind of a "Texas Tay")
5. Davaz spends his spare time (of which he has a lot because his wife dumped him a few years back and he can't get a girlfriend) trolling on message boards around the country
6. Davaz hates anyone who discusses any form of politics because he is himself a political reject
7. Davaz has a psychopathic (or psychopathetic) condition that causes him to suffer dillusions of grandeur
8. Davaz knows the people of every city in the U.S. discuss it's local interests on message boards but he tries to make a big issue of it because that's his facade d'jour
9. Davaz is a sad pathetic little man that hates people and has no friend in the world
10. Davaz has already proven himself a fraud by hiding behind almost a dozen different user names (if he's for real, why does he hide?)

Sound more believable? It sure does to me.

I can prove it all ... want to take a 10K$ bet? You name to the attorney to do document verification. Want to lose some money?

Who cares? I already know what you are- a very typical texas a**hole. There are many like you.

[Hometown]

Davaz, Thank you for answering my question.  I would appreciate it if you would give us some more detail on Point No. 7.  

"Davaz sold the home 8 months later and moved to Houston – reason was backwardness of Tulsa and OK in general."

Specifically, what did you see or experience that led you to conclude that Tulsa and Oklahoma were backward?

Also, wondering if you are still married to the same woman?  Did your mother-in-law move with you or stay in Tulsa?

Azbadpuppy, Davaz is not a typical Texan, he is a native Tulsan living in Texas.

[tulitlikeitis]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

Davaz, Thank you for answering my question.  I would appreciate it if you would give us some more detail on Point No. 7.  

"Davaz sold the home 8 months later and moved to Houston – reason was backwardness of Tulsa and OK in general."

Specifically, what did you see or experience that led you to conclude that Tulsa and Oklahoma were backward?

Also, wondering if you are still married to the same woman?  Did your mother-in-law move with you or stay in Tulsa?

Azbadpuppy, Davaz is not a typical Texan, he is a native Tulsan living in Texas.

Where have you been living? On another planet? You must be blind.

If you have come from the Bay area as you said, the backwardness should be plain to see ... it sure was to me. If you don't see it, no amount of words from me would point it out.  You see it everywhere ... cars people drive, their dress, food preferences ... everything.

Like I said before ... Tulsa is the land that time forgot.

By the way, leave characterizations of native this and native that to me. I may have been born there but I am surely not of there ... and there is a difference.

[azbadpuppy]

quote:Originally posted by tulitlikeitis

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

Davaz, Thank you for answering my question.  I would appreciate it if you would give us some more detail on Point No. 7.  

"Davaz sold the home 8 months later and moved to Houston – reason was backwardness of Tulsa and OK in general."

Specifically, what did you see or experience that led you to conclude that Tulsa and Oklahoma were backward?

Also, wondering if you are still married to the same woman?  Did your mother-in-law move with you or stay in Tulsa?

Azbadpuppy, Davaz is not a typical Texan, he is a native Tulsan living in Texas.

Where have you been living? On another planet? You must be blind.

If you have come from the Bay area as you said, the backwardness should be plain to see ... it sure was to me. If you don't see it, no amount of words from me would point it out.  You see it everywhere ... cars people drive, their dress, food preferences ... everything.

Like I said before ... Tulsa is the land that time forgot.

By the way, leave characterizations of native this and native that to me. I may have been born there but I am surely not of there ... and there is a difference.

I have lived in New York, London, & San Francisco among other places and I have no idea what you are talking about. Honestly you just sound like a typical hating Texan that tries pathetically to justify the crappy place you live by putting down Tulsa. Yawn.

And you certainly are not of Tulsa. That much IS obvious.

[Hometown]

Davaz, you didn't respond to my question about your family.  And you didn't really lay out any specific examples of backwardness.  In the past I've seen you respond to topics about religious extremists.  But beyond that I can't really speculate about what you find backwards.

You paint an attractive picture of yourself.  I imagine that you are skipping over some less flattering aspects of your story.  

One glaring point in your story that you haven't mentioned is your repeated return to the place that you say you dislike so much.  Your frequent visits to TulsaNow says there is still something you want from Tulsa.  And the fact that it is in someway fulfilling for you to take on various personalities to repeatedly criticize Tulsa is quite neurotic.

Now to really reach any consensus or to even begin to understand each other we need to understand what we value.  

I would agree with you that on many levels Tulsa is mediocre.  You site some great retail in Texas and I would say to you that the shopping in Dallas is nearly unrivaled in the United States.  And the retail in Tulsa is pretty sad.  So what.

I don't think many worldly Tulsans are going to tell you that Tulsa is a really serious contender for the biggest, baddest, mostest in any category.  Tulsa was a golden girl.  She was great early in her life.  And she hasn't been the center of anything since the 1920s.  But she was great once and bits and pieces of that remain.  

Don't get me wrong.  I love fancy stores, and world-class museums and all the things that giant urban areas have to offer and none of those things are here.  And I love here.  I love here because it is where I am from and it is my measure, my standard.  I am genuinely excited by the sight of Tracy Park just because I played there as a boy.  I am thrilled by the simplest things here.

Tulsa is small and comfortable and the pace is human and she still has great physical charm.

Did you ever play at Bells when you were a kid?  Sure it's rinky dink to fuss over the future of an amusement park.  That's part of the attraction here.  Life is simple enough that we can take time to fuss over Bells.

Now I can understand what happened to you.  I hear you Davaz.  Maybe someday I'll hear the rest of the story.  I'm sorry Tulsa didn't work out for you.  

What I don't understand is why you didn't anticipate what you would find in Tulsa.  And I don't understand why you can't let go.

[Double A]

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, oh yeah
Ah, whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah

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Oh, yeah
Whats my name
Tell me, baby, whats my name
Tell me, sweetie, whats my name
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Oh, yeah

[Hometown]

Come on Double A.  He aint all that.

[jdb]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

Come on Double A.  He aint all that.

Yeah, more like a puffed up person who finds himself dismissed by the natives as unpleasant company.

Hometown - Waterboys nod aside, isn't it nuerotic to expects reason from a nuerotic?

http://www.queendom.com/tests/minitests/fx/neurotic.html