Uneven Creek Extension (anyone know the lowdown?)

[Mike 01Hawk]

First off... who woulda thunk it, a Forum dedicated to T-Town... cool

Did a search but didn't find anything.

Anyway, I remember from the VERY first day the extension opened up it was a very thrilling rollercoaster ride over the marsh/wetland/pond area by the church.

What the heck is up with that?

Yeah I guess I could understand if it was an old dilapidated highway.. but this sucker was brand spanken new!

I guess the City of Tulsa is in cahoots w/ the local suspension shops eh?

[RecycleMichael]

Probably a state road instead of the city.

Describe exactly where and we can find out who did the substandard work.

[Mike 01Hawk]

It's the extension on the Creek Turnpike... been completed what.. 3 or so years now?

Starts off around 96th street where it's elevated on pillars for no real reason I can see.  Goes for a good mile or so of dips/bumps where every road piece is hooked up to a pillar.

Not really complaining THAT much.. it adds a nice little spice of variety to the commute/drive.  I'm just curious from a technical stand point since it was bumpy from day ONE.

[sgrizzle]

Every long elevated road I've been on has been that way. Driving on this one was a real treat:

[inteller]

its not uneven, the sections are just bowed slightly and peak at the joints.  Driving a performance vehicle it isnt an issue.  Driving some cushy boat of an SUV you will notice it.  Get better suspension.

[bacjz00]

Inteller that's a little unfair...I've been over that stretch many times since it opened...and it is seriously noticeable in ANY vehicle.  The question here is...is it designed that way for a reason? (drainage) or is this some massive mistake that no one has called the state on?  I'm guessing it's that way on purpose.  Either way your SUV comment is just about as trite as it gets.

[BKDotCom]

quote:Originally posted by bacjz00

Inteller that's a little unfair...I've been over that stretch many times since it opened...and it is seriously noticeable in ANY vehicle.  The question here is...is it designed that way for a reason? (drainage) or is this some massive mistake that no one has called the state on?  I'm guessing it's that way on purpose.  Either way your SUV comment is just about as trite as it gets.

trite, perhaps.
funny, yes

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by bacjz00

Inteller that's a little unfair...I've been over that stretch many times since it opened...and it is seriously noticeable in ANY vehicle.  The question here is...is it designed that way for a reason? (drainage) or is this some massive mistake that no one has called the state on?  I'm guessing it's that way on purpose.  Either way your SUV comment is just about as trite as it gets.

wrong, sport tuned suspension hugs those peaks not float over them like some fat metal manatee.

if you were worth my time I'd take you for a ride in a performance vehicle and while you rode you could eat on those comments for a snack...i hear they taste like crow.

a good explanation on why they built through there is because the land has little to no commercial value so they didt have to buy a bunch of people out.

[YoungTulsan]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by bacjz00

Inteller that's a little unfair...I've been over that stretch many times since it opened...and it is seriously noticeable in ANY vehicle.  The question here is...is it designed that way for a reason? (drainage) or is this some massive mistake that no one has called the state on?  I'm guessing it's that way on purpose.  Either way your SUV comment is just about as trite as it gets.

wrong, sport tuned suspension hugs those peaks not float over them like some fat metal manatee.

if you were worth my time I'd take you for a ride in a performance vehicle and while you rode you could eat on those comments for a snack...i hear they taste like crow.

a good explanation on why they built through there is because the land has little to no commercial value so they didt have to buy a bunch of people out.

Not having to buy a bunch of people out still doesnt explain why a more expensive construction up on a mile of pillars (a big bridge essentially) was used.   Drainage probably, that area is almost swampland in spots, so maybe a bridge was easier than fortifying the land through that stretch.  I think the curves that the road makes actually show that they were dodging land they WOULD have had to have bought out.  I bet someone owns a good chunk of land off of 101st and garnett's NE corner for instance.  It has to dodge that, and dodge the neighborhood at 111th and garnett's NW side.  On top of that, a 75mph turnpike I am sure has certain regulations on how sharp of a curve is allowable, so it had to make a bunch of gradual zigzags instead of a long straight line with a sharper turn towards where it needs to dodge a spot.

In other words I'm thinking they had their reasons for building it like that.  It'll be a huge eyesore for the area if the city (BA?) ends up building around it since all they took into consideration was building an ugly highway through the middle of nowhere.

[TheArtist]

One word.... Environmentalists.  That is a wetlands habitat, protected area and the only way it was allowed to have a highway there was to build over the wetlands. Was a big fight over it in the news and all if I remember correctly. As for the bumps, I suppose its  because you are in effect going over a dozen pre-manufactured bridge segments, all lined up after each other and thus notice each and every up and down.

[Breadburner]

Brian Adair did the concrete work....He was in over his head and under bid the job.....

[Mike 01Hawk]

inteller, pancakes dude?

So the problem is the vehicle not the road? Yeah.. that makes a LOT of sense.

And for what it's worth, I've driven that stretch in my Firehawk (hence my logon name) w/ full suspension, (LCAs, Koni, Pro-kit, Subframe, Relocs, PHB, etc) and it's NOT a fun drive.

[sgrizzle]

True sports cars will have suspension that is very stuff and be jarred. SUV and trucks will just bounce down the road. Somewhere in between (sport coupes and luxury cars) don't have it too bad.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by Mike 01Hawk

inteller, pancakes dude?
I've driven that stretch in my Firehawk

well there is your problem.

try it in a car with IRS and get back to me.

you are assuming all of those mods actually helped your car.

[sgrizzle]

So what kind of car is the intellermobile?