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Started by MichaelC, December 15, 2006, 09:59:48 AM

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MichaelC

From Tulsa World

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The Federal Aviation Administration has dismissed Roadhouse Aviation's formal complaint alleging that the Tulsa airport trust had discriminated against it to the advantage of its competitor at Jones-Riverside Airport.

The FAA findings, received Thursday by the Tulsa Airports Improvement Trust, say the trust's actions "were not unjustly discriminatory and not in viola tion" of FAA regulations.

Kent Faith, the owner of Roadhouse Aviation, had alleged that City Councilor Bill Christiansen, who owns Christiansen Aviation, was using his political clout to receive special treatment.

Faith would not comment Thursday. A woman who answered the telephone at Roadhouse Aviation said he had not had time to review the FAA's findings.

Christiansen said he knew that Faith's allegations were frivolous, "and this report proves that."

"For the last two years I've been lambasted by some people in town because of Faith's allegations, and I knew all along I had never done anything wrong," he said.

"I think it is a shame that an individual or small business can file a frivolous lawsuit or take frivolous action in the form of a formal complaint with the FAA and not be held responsible or accountable to pay the cost back for those actions," he said.

Christiansen said Faith had sued him and the airport, costing thousands of dollars. Then Faith filed a formal complaint with the FAA over the same issues. It cost the airport trust $76,000 to fight the formal complaint, records show.

The FAA findings state that the trust was not in federal violation in regard to its enforcement of the current Airport Sign Policy, fuel flowage fee audit, or the lease rates and terms given to Roadhouse, as Faith alleged.

There also was no violation of the trust's actions concerning the marking of Roadhouse tie-down leaseholds and allowing Christiansen Aviation access through that tie-down area or allowing Christiansen to buy another hangar.

The Roadhouse and Christiansen aviation businesses are fixed-base operators that sell fuel.

Former trust Chairman Ron Turner, whom Faith accused of having a conflict of interest because of his business relation ship with Christiansen, said he was excited by the report.

"It's fantastic. It exonerates the airport, the city and everybody that was dragged into this," he said. "It proves that the airport had acted fairly in all of its dealing with Roadhouse."

Mayor Kathy Taylor commented that now the airport can turn its efforts toward something positive and focus on development.

guido911

World:"It's fantastic. It exonerates the airport, the city and everybody that was dragged into this," he said. "It proves that the airport had acted fairly in all of its dealing with Roadhouse."

Well don't tell KFAQ this...It was the good ole boy network that screwed Roadhouse.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Conan71

I earned my pilot's certificate through Christiansen Aviation in 1996/1997.  I got to know Bill during that time and found him to be a straight-shooter with an impeccable reputation in the aviation community nation-wide.  

It pisses me off that Kent Faith has seen fit to besmirch Bill's reputation instead of facing the reality of his own business' inadequacies and what he was going up against when he started up at RVS.

Faith never considered when he started his business at RVS that Christiansen was well-liked by aircraft owners and pilots and offered great service on par with some of the swankier executive FBO's around the country.  It didn't matter if you were flying a Cessna 152 or Citation X.  You were still afforded the same access to all facilities and courtesies.  They kept their facilities upgraded and clean.

The advantages Bill has with his business has nothing to do with un-fairness.  His advantages are that he's a great businessman who really takes care of the customer.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nsugrad_05

I suspect, in a certain sense that Faith got bullied into this complaint. Maybe not literally but, the DelWhacko klan got a hold of him early on in this deal could have given him the idea that he could bring Bill down.

Conan71

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Originally posted by nsugrad_05

I suspect, in a certain sense that Faith got bullied into this complaint. Maybe not literally but, the DelWhacko klan got a hold of him early on in this deal could have given him the idea that he could bring Bill down.



I totally doubt the scenario of the Medlock, MaDoG, and Bates crowd had much to do with it.  Roadhouse is kind of like the little kid who's getting picked on by the class bully.  Instead of buffing up and taking his best shot, he whimpers off and gets his big brother to settle it for him.  

Yeah, and look at what MaDoG's attacks on Christiansen have gotten him- a big fat lawsuit.  The hillarious part of that is Doug Dodd, that big mean liberal who ran against John Sullivan, is DelWhacko's attorney in that case.

Faith must have thought he could just move onto the airport and have the easy life without considering there was a very good businessman who had had a very favored presense amongst the customer base for 25 years or so.  When he realized he couldn't compete at the same level as Christansen, he decided to blame it on Christiansen being an elected official which had absolutely nothing to do with his favored status on the airport.  

Knowing what I do of Bill's business ethics, he would have never been so stupid to use a position of power with the city to unfairly improve his business.  He didn't need that sort of help anyhow.  A little known fact to the non-flying public is that he also owns another highly successful business called "Lease-A-Plane" which leases aircraft to flight schools and individuals throughout the United States.  He has also consistently plowed money back into his businesses to keep improving them.

Roadhouse Aviation needs to wake up and realize that you can't just come in and un-seat a very well-run business.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Kiah

Fire Breaks Out at Jones Riverside Airport

KOTV - 12/26/2006 9:37 PM - Updated 12/27/2006 8:54 AM

Investigators are at the Jones Riverside Airport trying to figure out what caused a fire that burned two planes, Tuesday night.

The planes were heavily damaged, one was destroyed, officials said. We don't know yet who owns the planes, but they were being kept in a "Christiansen Aviation" building. Early estimates put the damage at around $200,000. No one was injured, said authorities.
 

Rico

quote:
Originally posted by Kiah

Fire Breaks Out at Jones Riverside Airport

KOTV - 12/26/2006 9:37 PM - Updated 12/27/2006 8:54 AM

Investigators are at the Jones Riverside Airport trying to figure out what caused a fire that burned two planes, Tuesday night.

The planes were heavily damaged, one was destroyed, officials said. We don't know yet who owns the planes, but they were being kept in a "Christiansen Aviation" building. Early estimates put the damage at around $200,000. No one was injured, said authorities.




Makes you wonder where they may have gotten the accelerant... There are only so many suppliers of aircraft fuel.....[}:)]

guido911

We know who really is behind this conspiracy, don't we alt. It has to be that man, that  member of skull and bones and Bohemian Grove...
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Conan71

I can't tell for certain, but it looks like a "Tee" hangar.  Those are open air with a roof.  That seems really odd that a wing hitting a support beam would spark a fire.  The plane is aluminum and the end caps on the wings are typically fiberglass or some sort of composite.  I'm wondering if it he might have left a cap on a wing tank open and got some static electricity that set it off.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Conan, who are overthnking this again. It's a conspiracy.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Conan71

Yeah, that's right, Christiansen abused his power as an elected official again![}:)]
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Now you are getting it...Remember, it's always the most contrived reason for everything.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Conan71

At least we are reasonably sure it wasn't friction from the insurance papers rubbing against the mortgage note. [:P]
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

tim huntzinger

Tulsa Beacon comments on the ruling

'This dismissal has been misreported and misrepresented. An educated reading of the FAA's fifty page initial decision clearly demonstrates that the complexity of the issues and the even more complex issues of correcting the problems with the TAA is simply more that the FAA Airports Division wants to or is capable of taking to task.'

Conan71

Ah yes, the Tulsa Beacon another component of the DelWhacko "Axis of Evil".
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan