Sound the alarm. Tulsa selling itself down river..

[deinstein]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

From what I can tell its on the SW "quadrant" of the highway and 91st. The old heart hospital is in the NE section.

Which would make it the Northwest corner. [xx(]

[sgrizzle]

quote:
Wheeler said he already has contracts pending with a pharmacy, a bank and a hotel, though he declined to name the tenants.

I'm betting Walgreens, arvest and Hilton.

Anyone else in?

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by brunoflipper

there is no negative economic impact from this agreement for tulsa... it is symbolic gesture... it will impact the name of the new facility...

Really? I'd say the lost sales tax revenue from this development would be a big time negative for Tulsa.

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by deinstein

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

From what I can tell its on the SW "quadrant" of the highway and 91st. The old heart hospital is in the NE section.

Which would make it the Northwest corner. [xx(]

Southwest.

[inteller]

from this image you can see parcel ownership.  What is interesting to note is that the building is divided in half by two parcels.  I think it is safe to assume that the Tulsa heart hospital parcel is the non taxable not for profit part they are talking about.  But what about Warren professional building parcel?  Thats the side of the house that provides doctors offices and what not.  People engaged in FOR PROFIT medical ventures.  There is also a reserve owned by Arrowhead Ridge Owners association.  Right now a reserve, but nothing stops them from turning it into a building.  The big uh oh is at the NW and SE corners of the section.  These are owned by William K Warren Medical.  It is not known if this is the not for profit side of the house, but considering that the NE parcel is under ownership of St Francis (definitely not for profit) I would suspect these two parcels are up for grabs commercially.

SO THIS is why Tulsa needs to say no to this deal.  Too many unknowns and too much potential.

[YoungTulsan]

Wow, how long has Warren owned that whole 1/4 of a square mile?  They could do HUGE things with that huge amount of land.  People need to make noise about this, but will the public even understand or care?

I bet QT has dibs on the street corner.

[deinstein]

I understand and could careless, honestly. It humors me you all care so much...

[YoungTulsan]

Imagine if we just gave Woodland Hills Mall to Broken Arrow, no questions asked. The sales tax revenue and property taxes paid would be substancial.  You have to take a stand on stuff like this so we (city of tulsa) don't just become pushovers on stuff that slowly chips away at our tax base.  The land in question is already ours.  Why should we give it to Broken Arrow?

[deinstein]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

just ignore him.  he cares more about illegal workers having safe working conditions than tulsa selling itself down the river.

Yeah, I'm horrible. I care more about someone dying than a piece of suburban wasteland.

Shoot me.

[inteller]

well, if that improves the quality of this thread I'm sure it can be arranged.