Tulsa Hills Shopping Center

[Kenosha]

What Waterboy said...x2.

My god, Medlock.  Believe it or not, not everything is about you.  I read this entire thread (OK..I scanned it) and never once thought of you (even when waterboy mentioned you by name.  In one ear and out the other... you should try it sometime.)

Let's get this straight, you were the councilor for the district this development is in.  You were for it.  You helped with the TIF.  YOU WERE DOING YOUR JOB.  What? Do you want a medal?

Let's pose a different question.  Let's say you are...Maria Barnes.  Would you work behind the scenes to make sure this Wal-Mart downtown happened? Would you be for that? Or would you put pressure on the developer to do it right, or else he isn't getting the TIF he wants...Now THAT is a sticky situation.  A half section of greenfield development in West Tulsa is...not so much.

[Rico]

Originally posted by Chris Medlock.

quote:

Ifind it especially ironic that you so confidently refer to me as either a buffoon, or one who served with buffoons in a forum about Tulsa Hills and it's positive impact on Tulsa and the West Side. Why? Because it wasn't Darla Hall or Rick Westcott or even Randi Miller who used their council position to help bring Tulsa Hills to the Westside. It was moi.

Hey Chris... Tell us the story about how you warned LaFortune that the Democrats were going to come at him with Kathy Taylor....

Is it really true he did not believe you...? and wouldn't even listen...?

Was this before or after you wanted to take his job..?

That was such an interesting story it bears repeating.

Play it again Chris...

By the way did you ever make up the (I) portion of your Degree..?

[Breadburner]

Some are going to have to come to grips with the idea that Tulsa's development future is best served by trying to "grind out a bunch of singles, rather than always swinging for the fences" and thus risking an embarrassing strike out, like last Tuesday's.


I could not agree more......

[sgrizzle]

Don't want to interrupt and be on topic or anything.. but:


TulsaWorld has an accompanying story with no new information:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=071013_1_A1_hThes06243

[swake]

The Oklahoma Journal Record has more detail than what was in the Tulsa World. Tulsa Hills phase one is all leased except for 20,000 square feet. It will be 32% larger than originally planned at 725,000 square feet. Phase two has grown to 800,000 square feet and will include a hotel. The project will be a massive 1.5 million square feet, larger than Woodland Hills when complete. Total cost has risen to about $150 million. The first stores will open in March. The project is projected to have about $160 million per year. They have not signed a theater chain or grocery store yet.

http://www.journalrecord.com/article.cfm?recid=82663

[tulsa_fan]

REASORS please.  I'm tired of driving to 21st & Yale from Sand Springs to shop for groceries.

[AngieB]

quote:Originally posted by tulsa_fan

REASORS please.  I'm tired of driving to 21st & Yale from Sand Springs to shop for groceries.

I'll give you an "amen" on that! Reasors are you listening? We are in DESPERATE need of a good grocery store!

[TheArtist]

Interesting an article I read stated that there will not be a grocery store with this development because there are not enough people within a certain distance to support one?

[Ibanez]

Before I moved from Sand Springs I contacted Reasor's several times about putting a store in Sand Springs. I always received a response, and not a form letter, which impressed me. Long story short they said that Sand Springs would not support another grocery store and is in fact oversaturated with grocery stores. I always pointed out that Warehouse Market shouldn't count because it is so nasty and I knew a lot of people that wouldn't step foot in there for any reason.

I also pointed out that a majority of the people I spoke with did not like shopping for groceries and Wal-Mart either and many of them, myself included, would drive to their store at 21st & Yale to shop.

Since moving to Bixby I have been asking for them to look into placing a store on the South Side of the River in Bixby. Same old story, "Bixby won't support another grocery store." I call BS on that...but what are you gonna do?

I actually ran into Jeff Reasor and some other high muckity mucks when they opened the store on 15th & Lewis. Being the devil may care person I am I walked up, introduced myself and pleaded the case for both Bixby and Sand Springs.

Their response was that they were about to do another survey in the Bixby/Glenpool area, but that there were no plans to even look at the Sand Springs market.

I'm guessing that Bixby is doomed since a Super Target is about to be built here. Hopefully it will be better than Wal-Mart, but from what I've seen of the one on 71st they are quite a bit higher on most things and have less variety that Wal-Mart.

Sigh....

[BKDotCom]

I live in Jenks and would stop at a Tulsa Hill's grocery store on the way home from work..  I'm not a big fan of Reasors.    Was hoping Target would be "super".

[AngieB]

I don't get it. Where do they think we go for groceries?  How many people do they need to justify a grocery store?

Westsiders are driving all over the place -- such as to the Neighborhood Market at 45th & Peoria or random Reasor's or Food Pyramids around town close to workplaces, etc. I don't go the Warehouse Market unless I need like a can of something to finish a recipe. Or toilet paper. That's about it.

[Ibanez]

quote:Originally posted by TulsaMINI

I don't get it. Where do they think we go for groceries?  How many people do they need to justify a grocery store?

I have asked the same thing myself doezens of times over the years.

[AngieB]

I was talking to a neighbor just last night and she said the same thing. Warehouse Market is last resort and don't even think of getting produce there. Heaven forbid you should need Parsley. NEVER do they have parsley. How can I make tabouli without parsley?? Sorry, off on an tangent....

[RecycleMichael]

If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages?

[dbacks fan]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages?

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Good one RM!!!!!

I'm glad to see that this area of Tulsa is finally getting what is needed and has been needed since they built th 71st bridge across the river. I never understood why this area not served better. And as for Warehouse Market, the only thing I found them useful for in years gone by was to cash pay checks and to buy charcoal from. I used to live near the union hall at Pine and Memorial and I would drive to the Albertsons on 21st and Memorial to shop.