Ruin a perfectly good street in Tulsa ????

[DM]

quote:Originally posted by AMP

There were no warning signs, and the Jump appears out of no where around a curve.

The warning sign is that you were in a residential neighborhood. What happens if a kid runs out in front of you and you run them over? Are you going to say they should have put warning signs? Now if the speed bump was not installed properly, that is one thing. But I thing most all residential 'main' streets should have speed bumps or something. Personally I would rather your suspension get damaged because you drove to fast then some kids get run over.

[patric]

Though well-meaning, they are a huge liability for the city, and a poor substitute for a driver's common sense.

We havent yet seen how bad an idea these are, but im betting we soon will.

[AMP]

I will take my digi camera there today and take photos of the crazy mess they are making there.

I will take a short movie of hitting the speed bump at the posted speed limit there.  I will shoot the speedometer and how much it bounces you out of the drivers seat.  Then I may do the same riding a few of my street legal motorcycles over the same Road Hazard.  

You can be the judge....

No there were no warning signs.  Yes they had installed about 6 of the bumps, but you could not see the construction as that street curves around and has hills that block your view ahead.

It all came up on us quick as a larger tall truck was ahead of us that added to the blockage of our view.  

Never saw the speed bump until we were over it and flying around in the truck along with other cargo, beiefcases, cell phones and other items normally carried in the cab of most vehicles.

It does not DAMAGE the suspension on larger heavy weight vehicles, it damages the occupants and their onboard cargo goes flying.  

MOST obstacles in a road such as a DIP or other hazards are MARKED with sinage or Yellow warning paint or otherwise.  

This addition of a ROAD HAZARD is clearly not needed.  

Again, where are the stats on how many accidents occured on this mile of road prior to the Speed Bumps?  And what will be the number of rear end collisions, People riding motorcycles crashing over these man made hazards and kids on bikes crashing as well.

Not to mention the nighmare they will cause during Icy / Snowy weather when the Snow Plows have to negotiate them.  

How do Emergency Response vehicles handle high speeds over these road hazards?

Speed Bumps are total non-sense in my book, and I drive Large 45,000lb multi-axle vehicles over 85,000 mile a year highway in 12 states and in town and have for the past 20 years.

Never had a ticket or been involved in an accident in all that time.  Only accident I was involved in was in 1984, other driver failed to yield. He pulled onto a main street from a parking lot and ran into the path of my vehicle. Neither one of us got a citation.

[NCTulsan]

AMP, was it anything like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg79_mM2CNY

[Conan71]

AMP, are you trying to say it's like a Volkswagen graveyard? []

[NellieBly]

Independence is not a major arterial street. It is meant for neighborhood use. There isn't even a bus route on it. Are you trying to say your big ole truck can't handle a couple of humps at 25 mph. That is ridiculous. Kids crashing. Rear end collisions. The street hasn't been plowed since the buses quit running AND... emergency crews that use Independence also come to almost a complete stop at the four way stops, because no one stops at them. Your arguments are not realistic. Sorry you are inconvenienced. I was incovenienced by speeders and stop sign runners when I lived there. Use Admiral or Pine street.

[AMP]

Just looks like a total mess compared to
two days ago.  Notice the Speed Bumps
are located very close to the 4-Way stop
signs that have been there for a few years.  They brought out some BUMP signs since
I was there yesterday.

I hit the jump at 25 in one of our
delivery trucks.  Here are the photos
and the video.

http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w162/ampracing10/STREET%20JUMPS/

If the weather is nice tomorrow or this
week I will get a group of motorcycle
riders to hit the jump at the posted 25mph speed limit and check their results.  

The last video is of a group of vehicles
all slamming on their brakes to slow down
from 25 to around 5mph to hit one of the
many new jumps built on the course there.

I interviewed a dozen neighbors that all live along that street and none had any knowledge of why the speed jumps were built on the course.  One lady said it was a stupid idea, another said it will keep her up at night with all the brakes squealing and the engines changing gears and reving up.

Enjoy...


Gota love the one with the fresh skid marks that run from the original pavement up
onto the new Speed Jump.   And the Orange
BUMP sign sitting on the street right next
to the Bump.  

And this deal is working out for us ?

[NellieBly]

I just drove over the humps in my neighborhood at 25 mph, the posted limit. No problem. Handled it in my cherokee. Didn't hit the roof of my car, etc. Skid marks are there because teens like to use those humps as a jumping off point. AMP-Please -- get over it. Use Admiral or Pine if you want to go 30-35 mph. Independence is a neighborhood. Children. Unleashed dogs, etc.

[NellieBly]

If people have to slow down to five mph -- which i doubt -- then good. It's a neighborhood not a high traffic way. I bet I saw your big a$$ truck flying down Independence more than once over the past 10 years I have lived there.

[NellieBly]

By the way -- the four way stop signs have only been up for about 3 years.

[charky]

I'm not for speed bumps in my neighborhood...but the rate of traffic along 56th St. between Yale and Harvard is ridiculous. Easily 50% of the traffic speeds...and it runs right by Carnegie Elementary.

And don't get me started on the runway section of Urbana.  

Infuriating.

[AMP]

Hit one of the the jumps at 25mph in one of our delivery trucks today.  Quite a jolt and momentary loss of vision and control at 25 the posted speed limit.  Here is the video...

http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w162/ampracing10/STREET%20JUMPS/?action=view¤t=PICT1841.flv

The recent, no more than a day old, SKID marks are on the lane heading into the Speed Jump, not going away from it.  

Good luck trying to drive a low set vehicle over these or when hauling a long cargo trailer.  Anything with less than 10" of clearance is subject to damage here. As it will scrape the end of the trailer when the wheels drop off 10 inches on the other side, compressing the suspension from the weight of the trailer and contents, and leaving the rear of the cargo trailer extended out to come into contact with the ashphalt.

A sign near the entrance to that section of pavement would be a good thing to warn anyone with less than 10" of clearance on a long vehicle of the damage that could occur.  

[tulsacyclist]

quote:Originally posted by NellieBly

I am getting ready to start petitioning my councilor in my new neighborhood for them. I at least want a four way stop sign. I am sick of kids in little cars with loud mufflers running the stop sign on my corner, peeling out at 2 a.m. and trenching my yard.

If they are doing damage to your yard and you like rocks I'd put some of those very large landscaping type rocks out there around the corner that they seem to have trouble making. That should do some damage to their vehicle next time they decide to miss the turn or take it recklessly.

[NellieBly]

Boards with big nails sticking out of them also work great.

[RecycleMichael]

Try a moat...with gators