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NellieBly

May 10, 2007, 03:05:03 PM
The Civil Service Commission announced Mayor Taylor can hire anyone she wants.

Conan71

#1
May 10, 2007, 03:07:28 PM
No Schnitz?  What about the whole "City Charter" angle?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

NellieBly

#2
May 10, 2007, 03:08:33 PM
Don't know. It was just announced on KRMG.

RecycleMichael

#3
May 10, 2007, 04:03:55 PM
Here is the KRMG story...

Civil Service Commission Backs Mayor

A win for Tulsa Mayor Kathy Taylor. The Civil Service Commission rules the mayor doesn't have to hire Tulsa's new police chief from within the department. An attorney representing three rejected candidates indicates he will seek an injunction in an effort to block the mayor from moving ahead.
Power is nothing till you use it.

tulsa_fan

#4
May 10, 2007, 04:18:52 PM
The Civil Service Commission is basically a committee, so don't worry, it's not over yet, unfortunately.  I'm sure they will seek an injunction again.  In the end, I'm pretty confident the Mayor will prevail, I just hate that it has to go this way.  I'd like to see a new chief hired, hopefully with new ideas and skill to run the department.  Instead, legal battles will rage on and I bet it will be months before a new chief is named.  Makes me sad.
 

Rico

#5
May 10, 2007, 04:23:10 PM
"An attorney representing three rejected candidates indicates he will seek an injunction in an effort to block the mayor from moving ahead."


^ You have got to love the American legal system...  It's not over until it's over.... No matter what the "Fat Ladies Singing".......

[}:)]

cannon_fodder

#6
May 10, 2007, 04:30:28 PM
OOoh, ooooh.  DIBS

I totally call the job of police chief.  I have no law enforcement experience let alone tenure on this force.  But I called it.
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Double A

#7
May 10, 2007, 05:51:14 PM
The TIA gave the great plains deal a thumbs up, too. How'd that work out? There's still much to unfold in this saga. Da Mare can celebrate this pyrrhic victory if she wants, but it is really meaningless.
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RecycleMichael

#8
May 10, 2007, 06:04:49 PM
I don't know the legal parts of this decision, but I am kinda surprised that the civil service voted unanimously for the Mayor.

The civil service commission almost always votes for the employee side. I remember a few years ago when a past Mayor fired an employee who had been stealing fire hydrants and selling them for scrap metal. The employee was caught with a backyard full of hydrants, but the civil service commission made the city give him his job back with back pay.

I think the city needs the best candidate possible and I am glad the civil service commission decided we could get just that.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

#9
May 10, 2007, 06:12:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

I don't know the legal parts of this decision, but I am kinda surprised that the civil service voted unanimously for the Mayor.

The civil service commission almost always votes for the employee side. I remember a few years ago when a past Mayor fired an employee who had been stealing fire hydrants and selling them for scrap metal. The employee was caught with a backyard full of hydrants, but the civil service commission made the city give him his job back with back pay.

I think the city needs the best candidate possible and I am glad the civil service commission decided we could get just that.


RM- I'd buy the best candidate thing, if I wasn't so suspicious of cronyism at some level on this deal.  I just have a feeling she had someone hand-picked as Been's successor before she ever re-instated him.  

I also have an incredibly poor attitude toward our city fathers and mothers looking outside the city so often for consulting, engineering, marketing, and key personnel, etc. ad nauseum.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

RecycleMichael

#10
May 10, 2007, 07:06:40 PM
I agree with you. The Police Chief is special because of the internal problems within the department, but Tulsa does seem to contract for services outside of itself way too often.

I remember thinking the same thing when LaFortune was all giddy about hiring Pelli to design the Arena. I think the local guys could have done a fine job designing such an arena and it would have such a big boost for the lucky firm selected.

I also was concerned when he insisted that Tulsa farm out the management of the Convention Center and Arena to a Philadelphia company. I was a fan of the local folk and think they had done a great job booking the PAC and an adequate job booking the Convention Center considering the condition of the building.

The Mayor LaFortune disagreed and gave all the work to an out-of-state firm. The local folk were shown the door.

At least with the police situation, nobody is losing their job.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Wilbur

#11
May 10, 2007, 08:23:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

I don't know the legal parts of this decision, but I am kinda surprised that the civil service voted unanimously for the Mayor.

The civil service commission almost always votes for the employee side. I remember a few years ago when a past Mayor fired an employee who had been stealing fire hydrants and selling them for scrap metal. The employee was caught with a backyard full of hydrants, but the civil service commission made the city give him his job back with back pay.

I think the city needs the best candidate possible and I am glad the civil service commission decided we could get just that.


I'd be interested in seeing your stats that say the Civil Service Commission "almost always votes for the employee side."

And it should be no surprise to anyone that Civic Service voted for the Mayor.  Is the Civil Service Commission not all appointed by the Mayor?

As I've said before, I really don't have a problem with the outside look for a chief.  But citizens of this city should be more concerned about their Mayor not complying with open records related to the police chief search.  By saying a private firm is handling the search is a bunch of crap and simply a cop-out (pardon the pun) to avoid having to produce a list of candidates.  I know for a fact not all candidates who applied were even contacted, let alone considered.  Her openness of government sucks!

And where has the Tulsa World been regarding the openness of the search.  How many short months ago was it the World ran a week long series on dealing with the open records act?  And now they don't even care?  Who is in who's pocket?

RecycleMichael

#12
May 10, 2007, 09:17:06 PM
The civil service commission is appointed by the Mayor, but Mayor Taylor has only reappointed one member. The remainder were appointed by previous mayors.

Power is nothing till you use it.

Rico

#13
May 10, 2007, 11:19:06 PM
^
I see.... just as I suspected "LaFortuna" is just behind the scenes.... Still calling the shots.....



Watch your back hombres.... [}:)]

Porky

#14
May 10, 2007, 11:41:49 PM
Obviously she has someone in mind on the outside. Can't wait to see what her brilliant efforts give us this time. lol [B)]
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