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Started by nam vet, May 24, 2007, 11:38:13 AM

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Double A

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Originally posted by Rico

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Originally posted by jamesrage

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Originally posted by recyclemichael

I laugh that our congressman is trying to shirk a federal problem off on our local officials.

Who doesn't believe that illegal immigration issues are mostly caused and can be best solved by the federal government?







Who here knows the federal government refuses to do it's job and refuses to fix the problem?So logically the problem can be best solved and fixed at the local and state level.Illegals do not cost the federal government anything they cost the tax payers who live in the states and cities.


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I think our councilors should tell our congressman to do his job before he tells them how to do theirs.


Our congressman did not vote for that new amnesty bill that the rat traitors in DC are trying to pass,so he is doing his job.




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Hey James do ya figure any of the people depicted in this poll would take offense to being called "rat traitors"....?

Or is it you just have to say that every so often to feel good?


New York Times...CBS Poll on Immigration Bill







About as much as opponents of illegal immigration like being called racists and xenophobes by open borders and amnesty advocates.
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RecycleMichael

Gosh doubleA...

You slam democratic councilors Maria, Jack and Roscoe on this thread. You have dozens of attacks on democratic Mayor Taylor and have gone after democratic governor Henry on this forum.

Now you follow republican congressman Sullivan's instructions to lobby on this issue...

How can you be an officer in the Tulsa County Democratic Party when you keep attacking elected democrats?
Power is nothing till you use it.

tulsa1603

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Originally posted by jamesrage

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Originally posted by Rico





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Oye...!

Si puedes traducir este halgo... es possible que yo puedo mandar una carta o hacer un llamado por ti.

Pero, si no puedes ayudar a mi.... yo no puedo ayudar ud.

Entiende...?

Vivo en este pais por casi todo mi vida... Puedo hablar Ingles, pero, no me gusta la idioma....

Nacio en un Estado al sur de Oklahoma...

Y penso que soy mas de un "gringo" que tu ....

Si quieres hacer un ejercicio que no vale nada.. andale....

Si quieres gastar el tiempo de la Policia con cosas que no valen nada.... tenemos una problema .


rico


[}:)]



This is why we need english only rules.Last time I checked this was the United states of America,not the United Mexican States.Cracking down on illegals is worth the time of the police.If our federal government did it's damn job we would not have to have the state and local governments doing the jobs the feds won't do.



Are you so misguided as to think that "english only" laws will make it illegal for someone to speak spanish on an internet forum?  Or at a mall?  There is a guy I work with who gets all worked up when he hears a Mexican family speaking Spanish TO EACH OTHER in public.  Like he somehow should be entitled to hear what they are saying in their private conversations....These English only laws will only ban the government from producing documents in languages other than English, they won't ban other languages from being spoken within our borders!
 

Double A

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Originally posted by recyclemichael

Gosh doubleA...

You slam democratic councilors Maria, Jack and Roscoe on this thread. You have dozens of attacks on democratic Mayor Taylor and have gone after democratic governor Henry on this forum.

Now you follow republican congressman Sullivan's instructions to lobby on this issue...

How can you be an officer in the Tulsa County Democratic Party when you keep attacking elected democrats?



Don't forget state officer. BTW, if you even took the time to read the platforms passed by the Tulsa County Democratic Party at the last two conventions you would know that the TCDP opposes illegal immigration. Criticizing  our elected officials for ignoring the platform of our party is an important responsibility for party officers IMHO. Deal with it. I'll treat the Mayor like a Democrat when she starts acting like one. At least I've never given campaign contributions or worked for Republican candidates like da Mare.  

So I guess it's totally cool for da Mare to have the police  harass homeless American citizens downtown for no reason other than the effete elite feel uncomfortable by their presence, but to have the police check the immigration status of someone arrested for a crime is totally unacceptable? Give me a break.
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RecycleMichael

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Originally posted by Double A

It passed. I guess Maria, Jack and Roscoe decided not to run for re-election.


These kind of statements seem very immflammatory for a democrat official to make against fellow democrats.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Double A

Don't you mean inflammatory? If you ever got off your ample arse to walk precincts door to door for your fellow Democrats you would be thinking the same thing. There is a clear consensus on illegal immigration in Tulsa and the people overwhelmingly oppose it. Sorry if I question the logic of falling on your sword to protect criminal illegal aliens. No matter how you spin this vote, that is how the public will view it, Spincycle.
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RecycleMichael

I am not arguing your point of view on undocumented immigrants, I am just finding it hard to believe that you continually find a reason to get mad at elected democrats, then go on a very popular public forum and trash them.

I think you should either resign from your party responsibilities or try to curb your attacks on fellow democrats. Tulsa County democrats already has a 13% disadvantage to registered republicans and your words make it even harder.

You have a right to say anything you want, but as a party official I think you should have the wisdom to not public drive wedges in our party.
Power is nothing till you use it.

jamesrage

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Originally posted by Hometown

Mr. Rage, Would you be terribly offended if I called you a parking lot attendant at a downtown parking lot?






Why would that be offensive?
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jamesrage

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Originally posted by Rico



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Hey James do ya figure any of the people depicted in this poll would take offense to being called "rat traitors"....?


What do you think is more accurate, Calling someone  a traitor for trying to encourage millions of people to invade our country and flush our sovereignty down the toilet or calling a multi-racial and multi-ethnic group a bunch of racist vigilantes?
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A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those

Double A

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Originally posted by recyclemichael

I am not arguing your point of view on undocumented immigrants, I am just finding it hard to believe that you continually find a reason to get mad at elected democrats, then go on a very popular public forum and trash them.

I think you should either resign from your party responsibilities or try to curb your attacks on fellow democrats. Tulsa County democrats already has a 13% disadvantage to registered republicans and your words make it even harder.

You have a right to say anything you want, but as a party official I think you should have the wisdom to not public drive wedges in our party.



Their votes will make it harder to elect Democrats and give Republicans an even greater advantage. What I've said on this board is mild compared to most of the reactions I've heard from people about this vote.

BTW, I hope da Mare is getting this lecture, because a Democratic Mayor who supports Republicans is far more divisive for our party. BTW, why did da mare take her website with all of her campaign promises down? I Guess she didn't want folks to compare what she's actually done in office with what she promised. C'mon there was no reason to take it down, even if she didn't keep her promises she could always do her usual routine of playing the victim, claiming her hands were tied and blaming someone else for the situation like she does so well. Make life bitter.
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rwarn17588

I'll be more succinct than RM.

Double A ought to quit the local Democrats because negative, name-calling cranks like him would hurt *any* organization.

Double A

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Originally posted by rwarn17588

I'll be more succinct than RM.

Double A ought to quit the local Democrats because negative, name-calling cranks like him would hurt *any* organization.



The funny thing is that if I had a dime for every time I've been asked to be more involved and to continue to be outspoken by other Democrats I wouldn't have to work for a living. Figure that out.
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Rico

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Originally posted by jamesrage

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Originally posted by Rico



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Hey James do ya figure any of the people depicted in this poll would take offense to being called "rat traitors"....?



What do you think is more accurate, Calling someone  a traitor for trying to encourage millions of people to invade our country and flush our sovereignty down the toilet or calling a multi-racial and multi-ethnic group a bunch of racist vigilantes?






Well James.... the actual meaning of the word may apply to a person that goes, somewhat aggressively, against a law signed into being by the President and ratified by the Supreme Court.

If the item discussed in the poll becomes the "Law of the Land" and you and the "Minutemen" conspire to violate "Said Law"...and begin carrying out acts contrary to the"Said  Law"....

That just might be called a traitorous act....


I would imagine your signature line, would then become, some kind of a self fulfilling prophecy.

What the Hell....! don't sweat the small stuff..

jamesrage

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Originally posted by Rico




Well James.... the actual meaning of the word may apply to a person that goes, somewhat aggressively, against a law signed into being by the President and ratified by the Supreme Court.


Treason has a very simple definition.A violation of ones sovereignty is act of treason.Allowing millions of people to invade the USA and to encourage it is a act of treason.Every rat scumbag pro-illegal is a traitor to this country for trying to encourage an invasion.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/treason
1.   the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2.   a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.
3.   the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.



If we go by your definition of traitor pro-illegals are still traitors because of the fact they are going against the law of the land.
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rwarn17588

Stop it, james, you're killin' me. [}:)]

You need to get on the Colbert show. Seriously.