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Started by TheArtist, May 29, 2007, 06:16:01 PM

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TheArtist

I just had a meeting with a possible client for a large Casino job.  I would be doing the murals on canvas and then shipping them to the site.  But I need to find out where and how much it would cost to rent a space in order to give a complete quote.

I would need a space with at least 10' ceilings prefferably 12' or higher and at least one unobstructed wall 20' long. That would be about the size of a single mural segment.

This would be the largest mural job I have ever gotten if I get it. The building is to be a quarter of a mile long and I will be doing 5 large ceiling murals that are "octagonal domes". The larger of the 5 will be 48' across the smaller 4 will be 30' across.  

I did a calculation of the amount of canvas I will need and it came to about 750 linear feet of 12' tall canvas. It will cost around 18,000 dollars just for that. Yikes!  I have done some big murals but this project is startlingly large even for me.

And I will have about 10 months to do it all in.

Any info and advice on any available spaces
would be very welcome.



"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

AngieB


mspivey

You didn't mention one other piece of the requirement - A BIG DOOR!

Hope you get the contract.

sgrizzle

Yes, the door will be an issue. I assume climate control could come into play as well.

the 41st/51st mingo-sheridan area has a ton of industrial spaces that rent fairly cheap. They are all warehouse strip malls pretty much.

Conan71

Artist, I have some space available, I will PM you.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

TheArtist

Actually I won't have to worry about the door.  The canvas will be on rolls and can be rolled back up when I am done painting each one.
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

TheArtist

Ok, after checking out prices and locations I am starting to lean towards the idea of having one of those large sheds you get at Home Depot, put up in my backyard.  Most rents for about a year will run me around 6,000.  A really nice shed that I can make into a little artists studio in my backyard, and its a huuuge yard, would cost around 8,000 set up included. And I have always wanted one anyway.

How would I find out about neighborhood ordinances?

Who would I need to call city wise to get a permit?

Do I need an inspector if I have an electrician put in a couple of outlets and a light?  Would also like a sink so I can clean brushes.

"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

Ok, after checking out prices and locations I am starting to lean towards the idea of having one of those large sheds you get at Home Depot, put up in my backyard.  Most rents for about a year will run me around 6,000.  A really nice shed that I can make into a little artists studio in my backyard, and its a huuuge yard, would cost around 8,000 set up included. And I have always wanted one anyway.

How would I find out about neighborhood ordinances?

Who would I need to call city wise to get a permit?

Do I need an inspector if I have an electrician put in a couple of outlets and a light?  Would also like a sink so I can clean brushes.





Likely the best place to start would be the COT construction licenses and permits dept. at 111 N. Greenwood.  596-9601.  If that isn't the right place, I'm sure you can get steered in the right direction.

Which sheds are you talking about?  The big barn-shaped ones?  Should be simple enough, I believe they use a cinder block foundation.  Now adding electric to code and plumbing will wind up probably tacking on another $3K or so to the project- just a guess.

You could always run an extension cord to the shed and install a surge strip on a wall and wire using cords from there.  Somewhat clumsy, but it'll work.  You can always buy one of those mop sinks at HD or Lowe's, run a hose to it or to some PVC and use conventional faucets.  There's a number of ways to do it.  

Join us for lunch at Napoli's tomorrow and we can discuss it.  I've got far too many ideas to put into a workable forum post without some smart-A calling me a know-it-all. [;)]
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

tulsa1603

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

Ok, after checking out prices and locations I am starting to lean towards the idea of having one of those large sheds you get at Home Depot, put up in my backyard.  Most rents for about a year will run me around 6,000.  A really nice shed that I can make into a little artists studio in my backyard, and its a huuuge yard, would cost around 8,000 set up included. And I have always wanted one anyway.

How would I find out about neighborhood ordinances?

Who would I need to call city wise to get a permit?

Do I need an inspector if I have an electrician put in a couple of outlets and a light?  Would also like a sink so I can clean brushes.





There are maximum square footages and heights for accessory buildings.  The square footages generally are a percentage of the footprint of the primary dwelling.

My only thought is that those things generally get reallllllllllllllly hot in the summer.  Are you going to air condition it? [}:)]
 

TheArtist

Yes I want to get one of the 16x20 barn type buildings with the 16' vaulted ceilings. I will insulate and sheetrock the interior and definitely install an air conditioning unit.[8D]  I stepped inside the one they have displayed at the Home Depot on 41st and Sheridan.  They seem very sturdy and I really like having a high open space like that to work in.  I will probably make it look like a little cottage with a porch, window over the french doors with shutters, flower boxes, little rustic fence and some roses, a bird bath. etc, etc.  It will be so cute you will puke lol.  [:P]
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

Lister

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

Ok, after checking out prices and locations I am starting to lean towards the idea of having one of those large sheds you get at Home Depot, put up in my backyard.  Most rents for about a year will run me around 6,000.  A really nice shed that I can make into a little artists studio in my backyard, and its a huuuge yard, would cost around 8,000 set up included. And I have always wanted one anyway.

How would I find out about neighborhood ordinances?

Who would I need to call city wise to get a permit?

Do I need an inspector if I have an electrician put in a couple of outlets and a light?  Would also like a sink so I can clean brushes.





Likely the best place to start would be the COT construction licenses and permits dept. at 111 N. Greenwood.  596-9601.  If that isn't the right place, I'm sure you can get steered in the right direction.

Which sheds are you talking about?  The big barn-shaped ones?  Should be simple enough, I believe they use a cinder block foundation.  Now adding electric to code and plumbing will wind up probably tacking on another $3K or so to the project- just a guess.

You could always run an extension cord to the shed and install a surge strip on a wall and wire using cords from there.  Somewhat clumsy, but it'll work.  You can always buy one of those mop sinks at HD or Lowe's, run a hose to it or to some PVC and use conventional faucets.  There's a number of ways to do it.  

Join us for lunch at Napoli's tomorrow and we can discuss it.  I've got far too many ideas to put into a workable forum post without some smart-A calling me a know-it-all. [;)]



KNOW-IT-ALL! KNOW-IT-ALL! [^]

LilMikey

I know of a place that rents rehersal space to bands that may be of help;  The Complex Music School and Rehersal Studio at 8600 S Lewis - I believe their number is 518-6260.

Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by Lister

KNOW-IT-ALL! KNOW-IT-ALL! [^]



NOOBIE! NOOBIE! [;)]

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AngieB


Rico

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

Yes I want to get one of the 16x20 barn type buildings with the 16' vaulted ceilings. I will insulate and sheetrock the interior and definitely install an air conditioning unit.[8D]  I stepped inside the one they have displayed at the Home Depot on 41st and Sheridan.  They seem very sturdy and I really like having a high open space like that to work in.  I will probably make it look like a little cottage with a porch, window over the french doors with shutters, flower boxes, little rustic fence and some roses, a bird bath. etc, etc.  It will be so cute you will puke lol.  [:P]




From this post you may want to check your zoning.

You just may want to price out the permits cost, licensed electrician fees, and I assume you are talking a slab o' concrete.... underneath..

The finished product could very well cost more than you are thinking at present.
Michael Sager has a lot of vacant property Downtown.. he has been known, in the past, to help an artist or two.