Sand Springs Keystone Corridor

[FOTD]

It's not the perfect storm type site and the market for retail expansion is about to shrival up like a ....never mind.

Sand Springs had some tremendous volume stores....back in the 60's.

[breitee]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

It's not the perfect storm type site and the market for retail expansion is about to shrival up like a ....never mind.

Sand Springs had some tremendous volume stores....back in the 60's.

So it will remain no mans land for the forseeable future. Great! One step forward, two steps back.

[FOTD]

I did not say that. Sheeesh, no retail and that makes it no man's land?
I like Sand Springs. Close to the lakes, no traffic and goat hill.
One day, it's places like Sand Springs people will want to live.....peace, quiet, and nature.

[breitee]

I like Sand Springs too. I live there. I just want to see some progress instead of promises.

[roscoe]

Any word on whats going on here?

[breitee]

Not a damn thing. It is a muddy sea of weeds. The city keeps promising us some news but we never hear anything. The latest is that they are still conducting "tests" to determine if the land is contaminated from the old Federated smelter that used to be where the Wal-Mart supercenter is now. Meanwhile, Tulsa Hills is almost completed while the city sits on their donkey and lets the business and commercial world go by.

[Ibanez]

quote:Originally posted by breitee

Not a damn thing. It is a muddy sea of weeds. The city keeps promising us some news but we never hear anything. The latest is that they are still conducting "tests" to determine if the land is contaminated from the old Federated smelter that used to be where the Wal-Mart supercenter is now. Meanwhile, Tulsa Hills is almost completed while the city sits on their donkey and lets the business and commercial world go by.

That is one of the reasons we left Sand Springs. The city leadership doesn't really seem interested in moving the city forward.

They pay a lot of lip service to it...but actions speak louder than words.

[perspicuity85]

Latest update.

[Ibanez]

They can hope in one hand and crap in the other. Which one do you think will get filled first?

[breitee]

Since then, the property has sat vacant.


That speaks volumes about the lack of vision and leadership in SS.

[TheArtist]

They have a neat little downtown. I wish they would have focused on that first, THEN connected it to the river. I could see their downtown being a kind of downtown Eureka Springs, artsy shops, getaway, type place and they could really have done a lot to push that along. They just dont have the draw yet to try and do what they are wanting done. Rather than trying to build a large new, same ol same ol area. They should have capitalized on what they have, grown that and created something funky, truly unique to the area, and very desirable. We are gonna have enough "clean new village shopping" type places in the area. To have something real like they could have done would have been great. Ya just want to smack people sometimes and yell "What are you thinking?!" lol

[godboko71]

I have to agree with everything TheArtist said, and I want to add that though I don't live "near" sand springs, living on the  edge of downtown I have to say I would much rather go to Sand Springs for a weekend getaway then  say Jenks. But as it is right now there is nothing to do unless your idea of fun is going to Wal Mart.
Anyway it would be nice if groups like the Charles Page Foundation spread their wings a bit and expanded their services into not just the improvement of the less fortunate and battered women but to also help improve SS by commercial development. Which at the end of the day would end up helping the people they are already helping thus not leaving there core mission. They own allot of land lots of it is vacant or unused might be a good time to see to the right developers, will not only spuere development but will also help mine there budgets with a much needed injection of cash.

Kind of funny but part of their problem downtown is the same as ours, they have allot of I can't call them homeless in this case but they have plenty of less fortunate people around walking between the different services. Though I have to say they have a great work program but alas that's not the point.
Somewhere the peoples vision is being lost on their leaders and they need to do something about it.

Either way I look forward to any development in Sand Springs.

[yldchyld]

Whenever I go to St. Louis, for instance, I am blown away by how their burbs keep growing. Tulsa is behind them in development for sure. Sounds strange to say given all the construction everywhere. What my point is, people live and shop within their communities when the means is available to them. Each community in St. Louis has a major shopping mall nearby as well as some special attraction to draw in the surrounding communities. We have one indoor mall I believe, Woodland Hills, and Sand Springs, Bixby, Owasso, Collinsville, Broken Arrow , Jenks and on and on all have to drive and cram 71st street to go to an indoor mall. Hey developers, if you build it in their community they will spend their money there.

[waterboy]

Sand Springs was expecting passage of some sort of river development that would allow them to build a low water dam and feed off the momentum of the convergence of river development, the extension of main street retail and removal of the city's only slums and decrepit industrial sites. All they got out of it was the removal of the low income neighborhood and industrial sites. Not sure you can blame their leaders for lack of action though. Without a focal point and a willing sugar daddy, they sort of lost traction. The question is who has the money AND the interest in building a RiverWalk type center in Sand Springs? Where's the SS Home when you need them?

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

Sand Springs was expecting passage of some sort of river development that would allow them to build a low water dam and feed off the momentum of the convergence of river development, the extension of main street retail and removal of the city's only slums and decrepit industrial sites. All they got out of it was the removal of the low income neighborhood and industrial sites. Not sure you can blame their leaders for lack of action though. Without a focal point and a willing sugar daddy, they sort of lost traction. The question is who has the money AND the interest in building a RiverWalk type center in Sand Springs? Where's the SS Home when you need them?

But why whould you want to build in Sand Springs? One chooses, from many options, where to build. If you have the money, you look around and go.... Hmmm, where is everyone going? A business needs eyeballs and traffic to have a chance at making money. What are the development trends, what direction is development now heading thus may continue to go in the future? Whats area is going to be the safest bet for my hard work and money?. You sure as heck dont want to lose your shirt. Every development is a risk. Even the RiverWalk in Jenks with its fantastic growth and demographic area. So why Sand Springs versus plenty of other places?

Sand Springs is seeing some new housing growth. Not quite enough yet to spur a new "directional or area" trend. It could see a good growth spurt, or it could continue to meander along. Creating a funky, interesting downtown and or creating some sort of image for themselves, could be one way to get that little bit of extra attention they need and get things to take off.

Does sound a lot like Tulsa in many ways lol.