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Started by brunoflipper, June 21, 2007, 09:56:49 AM

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Friendly Bear

RWARN:

My original segue into the topic of involuntary employee participation in a Tax Grab to benefit their employers was:

Here's a swell little fact you'll just love.

It was reliably reported to me by someone who would definitely know what they are talking about.

Here goes:

Back during the Vision 2025 Sales Tax Campaign, the top management of the bank directed that a Vote YES sign be INVOLUNTARILY placed in the residential yard of every bank employee residing in Tulsa County.

And, if the employee objected to the bank's usupation of their free speech rights, and did not want the sign placed in their yard, then they could do an EMSA Opt-Out by simply phoning the bank's Human Resources department to have their name taken down.

Obviously with the strongly implied threat of retaliation or outright dismissal.....

FACT??

Ain't Democracy Great, in the Banana Republic of Tulsa?


B-OK Werker has admitted that it happened.  

What's not to believe?

B-OK Werker admitted as much.


Renaissance

Good lord.  I guess there's no avoiding the crazies on a public forum.  Moving on . . .

Could someone explain how a "low water dam" works and what it looks like?  Does it impound water or slow its flow?  Are there convenient examples we can look at nearby?

cks511

Well, well, well.  The other day FB nailed me because I was slightly off topic....hmmmmm. LOL..OT again. You guys crack me up.  What does employee 'requirements' have to do with infrastructure...apparently I'm as dumb as I thought...lol.

sgrizzle

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Originally posted by Floyd

Good lord.  I guess there's no avoiding the crazies on a public forum.  Moving on . . .

Could someone explain how a "low water dam" works and what it looks like?  Does it impound water or slow its flow?  Are there convenient examples we can look at nearby?



41st is a low water dam.

I'm not a hydrologist, hydraulic engineer, or hydra but I believe low-water dams are designed to slow and partially block flow only.

brunoflipper

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by bokworker

I know for a FACT that signs were not placed in every employees yard in Tulsa county... and you insinuated that it was the bank that did it. If not, then why the heck would we have to "opt-out" by calling HR? You are giving me way too much credit as to being able to "cleverly" word my response FB.... The BANK in no way used any type of coersion, implied or real, to force participation in the support of the Vision 2025 vote. Clear enough?



Your half-truths are more than revealing.  Be more careful.

Employees who "opted-out" did not have signs placed in their yards.

The HR department was the clearing house for the sign placement, because they possessed every employee address.

Outside parties engaged by the Vote Yes Cabal provided the signs, and provided the sign placement.

Bank employee addresses residing in Tulsa County were supplied.

And, due to the confidentiality of bank personnel records, they apparently did NOT provide the employee names to the outside parties who planted the signs.  Just an address.

Employees were permitted to contact HR to "opt-out".  

The implicit intimidation is obvious to anyone who works for a living.

Sorry, I have to leave for awhile to attend Commissioner Perry's Kaiser River Tax Forum.





and i thought I needed a tinfoil hat.... holy crap...
"It costs a fortune to look this trashy..."
"Don't believe in riches but you should see where I live..."

http://www.stopabductions.com/

Chicken Little

Your responses have been MORE than revealing BOkworker!  You have said, repeatedly, that you and no one that works for you was involved in the sign conspiracy.  And so, the OBVIOUS conclusion is that the rest of your workforce...THOUSANDS of employees...live on a giant space ship that hovers invisibly over the tower.

Tallest building in Oklahoma?  Now we know why.  These tax-loving SPACE VAMPIRES also receive free parking on the taxpayers dime.

I have, from a reliable source, heard that your alien friends are working arm-in-arm with Tulsa's secret overlord, MICKEY ROONEY, on a ballot stuffing project!

TRUTH???[;)]

Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little

Your responses have been MORE than revealing BOkworker!  You have said, repeatedly, that you and no one that works for you was involved in the sign conspiracy.  And so, the OBVIOUS conclusion is that the rest of your workforce...THOUSANDS of employees...live on a giant space ship that hovers invisibly over the tower.

Tallest building in Oklahoma?  Now we know why.  These tax-loving SPACE VAMPIRES also receive free parking on the taxpayers dime.

I have, from a reliable source, heard that your alien friends are working arm-in-arm with Tulsa's secret overlord, MICKEY ROONEY, on a ballot stuffing project!

TRUTH???[;)]



Bank executive management directed that the residence of every employee who resided in Tulsa County would have a Vision 2025 Vote Yes sign implanted in the yard.

The employees were not asked.

The employees could theoretically "Opt-Out" of the sign placement, IF they called the HR department to have their name so noted.  

The flagrant employee intimidation was not subtle.

The employee addresses were then provided to the Vision 2025 Tax Cabal, who then planted the signs in all employee yards in Tulsa County, save those unintimidated (and UNEMPLOYED?) employees who presumably elected to "Opt-Out".

Management's purpose was to falsely communicate the semblance of a "grass-roots" groundswell of support for Vision 2025, by planting signs at personal residences.

The employees private property, their personal privacy, and their free speech rights were suborned to the unethical actions of the executive management of the organization.

And, I fully expect the same management to foist the same unethical practices upon their defenseless employees during the Kaiser River Tax Blitzkrieg.

Why?  Because they got away with it cleanly during Vision 2025.

Well, almost..........[;)]

We will all now drink the Tax Kool-Aid.

[:O]

bokworker

FB, absent your ability to provide factual eveidence that ONE single employee had their future with this bank negatively impacted by "opting-out" then all you have is a perception... and a perception of intimidation is not a fact... it is an opinion.

Give it a rest bud... besides, CL is the one that is onto something..lol.
 

waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by bokworker

FB, absent your ability to provide factual eveidence that ONE single employee had their future with this bank negatively impacted by "opting-out" then all you have is a perception... and a perception of intimidation is not a fact... it is an opinion.





That's an odd remark. It implies that it was done, but that not one single employee was negatively impacted. Is that what you meant? As an aside, that rumor was rampant at the time. Though it may have been FB that was spreading it!

Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by bokworker

FB, absent your ability to provide factual eveidence that ONE single employee had their future with this bank negatively impacted by "opting-out" then all you have is a perception... and a perception of intimidation is not a fact... it is an opinion.

Give it a rest bud... besides, CL is the one that is onto something..lol.



Aren't you supposed to be working?

On the intimidated bank employees, like I'm supposed to tell YOU?

So they can be fired?

I know what was done; why it was done; and by whom it was directed.

Your dissembling is not changing the facts.

The conduct of bank executive management was:

UNETHICAL.

Executive management violated the privacy, the free speech rights, and the private property of its employees.  

They should take care to guard the bank's good image...............

[:O]


Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by bokworker

FB, absent your ability to provide factual eveidence that ONE single employee had their future with this bank negatively impacted by "opting-out" then all you have is a perception... and a perception of intimidation is not a fact... it is an opinion.





That's an odd remark. It implies that it was done, but that not one single employee was negatively impacted. Is that what you meant? As an aside, that rumor was rampant at the time. Though it may have been FB that was spreading it!



Waterboy:  

It was done.

Just like I said previously.

Bank executive management directed that the residence of every employee who resided in Tulsa County would have a Vision 2025 Vote Yes sign implanted in the yard.

The employees were not asked.

The employees could theoretically "Opt-Out" of the sign placement, IF they called the HR department to have their name so noted.

The flagrant employee intimidation was not subtle.

The employee addresses were then provided to the Vision 2025 Tax Cabal, who then planted the signs in all employee yards in Tulsa County, save those unintimidated (and UNEMPLOYED?) invididuals who presumably elected to "Opt-Out".

Management's purpose was to falsely communicate the semblance of a "grass-roots" groundswell of support for Vision 2025, by planting signs at personal residences.

The employees private property, their personal privacy, and their free speech rights were suborned to the unethical actions of the executive management of the organization.

Renaissance

The horse is dead.  Stop beating it.

Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by Floyd

The horse is dead.  Stop beating it.



Nay, I say.

The Horse must still live.

There is still plenty of evidence of it coming from RWarn, ChickenLittle, Swake, Floyd, et. al., dropped, flopped, and plopped in neat little piles.

BokWorker, I can sympathize with, and he/she is an effective dissembler.  Unfortunately, Worker is also just trying to defend the ethically indefensible actions of his executive management.


Renaissance

The only evidence you've got from me is that I don't give a flying rat's donkey about your conspiracies.  Go back into hibernation please, post haste.

Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by Floyd

The only evidence you've got from me is that I don't give a flying rat's donkey about your conspiracies.  Go back into hibernation please, post haste.



Conspiracy?  Nay.

COORDINATION, yeah, by many slimey, tax-grubbing tentacles of the Founder Families, their associated Trust Fund babies, and their ruthless legion of connected cronies willing to do their bidding.

That's how their 3rd fortunes are built.  

This IS an INFRASTRUCTURE thread, afterall!