Almost 30 tickets an hour

[jiminy]

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=b1f941de-f84a-4af2-9981-107e32a37051

They need to do this every day.  Raise money, and help curb this disturbing aggressive driving trend that has been running rampant the last few years.  They could probably write as many red light tickets at any major intersection.

[Breadburner]

They should start popping the Hardley/Chopper riders for noise ordinance violations....All that chromed out junk sounds the same....If you have heard one you have heard them all....

[Rowdy]

Yeah and lets get more cops to screw with people's lives and write up more tickets.  Yea! Obviously this is something the Tulsa Police Department and Tulsa Court can do well at.  Yet we have crime running rampant.  

[RecycleMichael]

This kind of police activity also slows down traffic.

That road is now safer.

[Wilbur]

Speed kills!  

There are just as many people killed in traffic collisions as there are murdered in Tulsa each year.  Something that should not be ignored and something that is 100% preventable.  

Police concentrate on traffic because of the amount of lives, injuries and property damage that result from collisions.  Ever wonder way the insurance on your $10,000 car is more expensive then the insurance on your $100,000 house?  

1400 collisions a month in this town is too many!

[Rowdy]

Ill bite.

I could care less about statistics thrown at me that speed kills and Officer Insertnamehere states that every accident he or she goes to is either due to drunk driving or excessive speed. Cops in this city ARE NOT used properly.

I cant count the times where police have been used in certain areas only for revenue purposes and yet someone who knows someone in the force states there is no quota or revenue. Thats a load of crap. I remember just a few months ago where the construction was finished in Broken Arrow along 61st st just east of 169 and the lights went out one day at the second set of new lights before you get to 129th.  

The BA cops there decided to hide and get people who didn't come to a complete stop due to the lights flashing red.  Did I get stopped?  No.  But this isn't about me.  Its the waste of time cops use to cite people for some really stupid things where there labor could better be used elsewhere.  

The same goes for that cop who sits hiding at the bottom of a hill so he could get better odds of writing a ticket where the bottom of a hill has nothing but cow pastures for miles.  No turnoffs for any other street or residence or anything.  

When the city gets control of the crime issue it has, I am sure I would feel somewhat differently about our force here in Tulsa. Otherwise, its a moot point with me.  I can guarantee that most people who frequent this forum are more concerned about being shot or assaulted then they are about a person going 11 mph over the speed limit running into them.

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by Rowdy

Ill bite.

Still chapped about that unfair speeding ticket, eh?

[Wilbur]

quote: I can guarantee that most people who frequent this forum are more concerned about being shot or assaulted then they are about a person going 11 mph over the speed limit running into them.

I will agree with you.  And the majority of those people won't be affected by the crime they fear, but they WILL be involved in a collision.  And while most of the folks here don't know a sole who has been affected by recent shootings in the area, most know someone who has been involved in a collision, injured in a collision, or killed in a collision.

More property damage and injuries result from collisions then from all other crimes combined ten fold.  Why is that okay?  Why do you say that should be ignored?  

quote: I cant count the times where police have been used in certain areas only for revenue purposes and yet someone who knows someone in the force states there is no quota or revenue. Thats a load of crap.

Sorry, but police don't get revenue from tickets, as it should be.  Money from fines go to several different government groups, but police aren't one of them.  And since you seem to know so much about police ticket quotas, what are the quotas you know so much about?  What's the number?  How many tickets have to be written?  For any group?

Do I expect an officer who is assigned to traffic duties to write a bunch of tickets?  You betcha!  Do I expect a robbery detective to solve a bunch of robberies?  You betcha!  Do I expect a school resource officer to spend a bunch of time at the schools?  You betcha!

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur

Speed kills!  

There are just as many people killed in traffic collisions as there are murdered in Tulsa each year.  Something that should not be ignored and something that is 100% preventable.  

Police concentrate on traffic because of the amount of lives, injuries and property damage that result from collisions.  Ever wonder way the insurance on your $10,000 car is more expensive then the insurance on your $100,000 house?  

1400 collisions a month in this town is too many!

Traffic fatalities are not 100% preventable. Violent crimes are 100% preventable. Even with a cop on every corner you will still have rulebreakers. Until you solve the problem that you have dozens of extra officers to park on the side of the road during the day and not enough officers to take care of the real problems at night, there will still be an issue.

Past experience in other cities has found that trying to curb lesser crimes does lower the incidences of capital crimes. However, those lesser crimes need to be related. crack down on drugs and illegal gun possession and the violent crime rate will lower.

[RecycleMichael]

We need to go back to CB radios so we can teel each other where the speed traps are set up that day.

Even better...

Someone should set up an email list serve that sends the info to my blackberry.

[Wilbur]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

We need to go back to CB radios so we can teel each other where the speed traps are set up that day.

Even better...

Someone should set up an email list serve that sends the info to my blackberry.

Even better, don't speed and you won't have to worry about it.

[Wilbur]

quote: Traffic fatalities are not 100% preventable.

That is exactly the attitude problem of why people believe collisions are, some how, a way of life.  Every single traffic collision was started by someone who has committed a traffic violation.  No one is forcing that person to commit that traffic violation, they chose to do so on their own accord.  Yes.  Each and every one of the 1400 collisions in Tulsa every month are preventable!  And it soooo easy.  It's called 'PAYING ATTENTION' to the task at hand.  And that task is aiming that 4000 pound slab of steel down the road.  Not eating, playing with the radio, playing with the phone, goofing around with your passengers, ..........

Until society has a change in attitude towards the acceptance of 43,000 people killed each year (the war in Iraq would have to go on 50 years to equal one year of traffic fatalities in the United States), you and I will continue to pay ridiculous insurance rates and make insurance companies rich (and keep me employed).

[sgrizzle]

I'm glad that driving the speed limit keeps deer from running out in front of you, freak weather from happening, and tires from blowing out.

I'm sure the family of the newsperson that dies when a freak weather system blinded the driver and sent them off the keystone dam would like it if you called and told them their family member's death was their own fault.

[inteller]

hey, at least the article tells us where the speed thugs will be next week.  time to go rob and pillage in north tulsa!

[Wilbur]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

I'm glad that driving the speed limit keeps deer from running out in front of you, freak weather from happening, and tires from blowing out.

I'm sure the family of the newsperson that dies when a freak weather system blinded the driver and sent them off the keystone dam would like it if you called and told them their family member's death was their own fault.

When the State runs their stats, which are all fed into the federal death toll, those INCIDENTS you mention are not included.  Technically, they are not considered collisions, they are simply incidents that are reported on collision forms, if that makes any sense at all.