Yoot Pastor Shoots Petty Criminal

[tim huntzinger]

Not a Tulsan, but this brings out the Christians with guns debate quite nicely.

This guy puts the Riverside shooter to shame.  At what point does a youth pastor decide that bringing a gun to an overnighter is a good idea? Any defenders out there?

[Ibanez]

Good for him. He was there to guard the property from thieves and when the thugs showed up and started getting aggressive he took action.

[sgrizzle]

The guy was running a business, at night, and sitting on a stack of cash. If this had been a gas station and the cashier shot someone who hopped behind the counter, everyone would support him. Same thing happened here.

[RecycleMichael]

In the Clint Eastwood movie "Pale Rider", Clint plays a preacher gunfighter.

This guy is just acting out what he sees in Hollywood. Let's blame them.

[sgrizzle]

I blame pac-man, I eat all the time and usually run from ghosts.

[MichaelC]

It is kind of strange that a representative of a Church would find it necessary to carry a weapon.  On the other hand, apparently it was necessary.

And again, state laws allows this guy to fire at will towards a crowd with no repercussions.  Strange days, in a backward state.  What can you do?

[waterboy]

Don't you all find it curious that suddenly there are several of these 'stand your ground" shootings? Again, no warning shots, and it was a scene that could have been solved without a gun.

I hate thieves and have been their target many times. But never considered killing someone over property. The result is not that petty theft crimes will diminish. The result is that petty criminals will start carrying guns too and shoot back. We just raised the level of violence.

[MichaelC]

We did raise the level.  And we'll see a lot more of this IMO.  

And the guy was right to shut down the fireworks stand, he popped off at a group of people, any one of which could come back to haunt him and his church.  Would anyone be terribly surprised if the youth pastor ends up dead, or his church on fire?  It pays to let the police, or in this case sheriff, handle the problem.  If possible.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

The result is that petty criminals will start carrying guns too and shoot back. We just raised the level of violence.

Do naive much?

[DM]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

The guy was running a business, at night, and sitting on a stack of cash. If this had been a gas station and the cashier shot someone who hopped behind the counter, everyone would support him. Same thing happened here.

yeah, i have to agree with you. You would think a pastor would not even have the gun and opt for dogs or professional faken bacon but the thieves got what they deserved.

[MichaelC]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

The result is that petty criminals will start carrying guns too and shoot back. We just raised the level of violence.

Do naive much?

What's more naive?  The idea that criminals who wouldn't normally carry guns, will now.  Or that the only effect of "concealed carry" on criminals is deterrence?

It will only take a few times for the wrong guy to be shot, before someone will take notice.  Then it'll be revenge killings encouraging revenge killings, as opposed to concealed carry encouraging concealed carry.

[Breadburner]

Good for the Pastor....He protected one his flock from a violent beating.......

[NellieBly]

Yeah, it's an eye for a roman candle right? Oh no, it's a life for a sparkler? I forget.

[grahambino]

5.  Thou shalt not murder...without cause.

right?

[tim huntzinger]

If the only tool you carry is a hammer everything looks pretty much like a nail.  I contend the Pastor wanted a confrontation, he wanted to catch some heathen stealing and the punks obliged him.  There are so many other ways to catch a criminal than hope for a confrontation with an unarmed man.

Maybe the Pastor ought to teach his boys how to fight and he would not 'have' to use deadly force to protect them against unarmed criminals.