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[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by booWorld

I've heard that Mayor Taylor is looking for Tulsans to serve on authorities, boards, and commissions.  According to INCOG's wesite, the terms of 3 of the 5 members of the Board of Adjustment expired in May.  If the Zoning Map is indeed outdated and if the current Board of Adjustment members are not willing to maintain that map, then I suggest that some PreserveMidtown members who are actually willing to serve on the BOA submit their names to Mayor Taylor's office.

Good luck with that. The developers have a handpicked list of their appointments that Kathy Taylor will appoint.

[akupetsky]

quote:Originally posted by Double A

quote:Originally posted by booWorld

I've heard that Mayor Taylor is looking for Tulsans to serve on authorities, boards, and commissions.  According to INCOG's wesite, the terms of 3 of the 5 members of the Board of Adjustment expired in May.  If the Zoning Map is indeed outdated and if the current Board of Adjustment members are not willing to maintain that map, then I suggest that some PreserveMidtown members who are actually willing to serve on the BOA submit their names to Mayor Taylor's office.

Good luck with that. The developers have a handpicked list of their appointments that Kathy Taylor will appoint.

What evidence do you have of that?

[RecycleMichael]

You asked doubleA for evidence? You want him to back up all his slander?

That's a good one!

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

You asked doubleA for evidence? You want him to back up all his slander?

That's a good one!

Yeah, let's just gloss over the controversial developer appointments she tried to make already that were met with outrage and opposition by neighborhood associations earlier in her term. I remember one of those little dust-ups resulted in her having to withdraw her appointment and appoint a more suitable frequent Tulsa Now poster. To everything, spin, spin, spin. There is a season, spin, spin, spin.

[RecycleMichael]

This is what you wrote..."The developers have a handpicked list of their appointments that Kathy Taylor will appoint"...

Got any evidence?

Of course not.

[ARGUS]

Realtor should be capitalized.
Preserve Mid-Town.Com = good idea, tough chore ahead of them.
Go Tulsa! All of Tulsa!

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

This is what you wrote..."The developers have a handpicked list of their appointments that Kathy Taylor will appoint"...

Got any evidence?

I'm interested too.

[Chris Halliwell]

I'm sorry I wasn't paying more attention to the discussion here. I don't speak for Preserve Midtown, but I'm proud to be part of it and I helped with the website.

The opening paragraph says some developers "build houses right up to the curb." My first draft read simply "build right up to the curb", and I was referring to the privacy walls and personal parking lots that are replacing many of Midtown's lawns. I later added "house" simply to improve the layout, and I didn't see at the time that I changed the meaning. It was a mistake.

[booWorld]

quote:Originally posted by Chris Halliwell

I'm sorry I wasn't paying more attention to the discussion here. I don't speak for Preserve Midtown, but I'm proud to be part of it and I helped with the website.

The opening paragraph says some developers "build houses right up to the curb." My first draft read simply "build right up to the curb", and I was referring to the privacy walls and personal parking lots that are replacing many of Midtown's lawns. I later added "house" simply to improve the layout, and I didn't see at the time that I changed the meaning. It was a mistake.

Where are those privacy walls and personal parking lots?  Are they built right up to the curb?  I'd like to see them.

[TheArtist]

Now that is something I have begun to be very concerned with lately. The walls that people have been building more and more in midtown. Go down Peoria near Philbrook, turn on the street that goes towards Philbrook, and you will see lots of them for instance. They are beginning to show up more all over the place.

Though its not that bad now, one only has to imagine how things will be if this continues. Unless you are familiar with how such a trend ends up looking from seeing it in other cities, the average Tulsan may not register it,,,until its too late and the damage has been done.

One of the things I love about that area is driving down the streets and seeing the beautiful homes and yards. Its nice to bike and walk in those areas as well. Those beautiful old homes and neighborhoods are one of the selling points, points of pride for our city. Something beautiful to enjoy. Even cities larger than us dont often have as many large, beautiful old homes as we do.

I remember going to some "nice" old areas and neighborhoods in Coconut Grove and the Miami area. It was awful, the neighborhood streets were like driving through alleyways. You could just see the tops of the houses and there were walls right on the street on either side of you.  

We really have something good here, lets not turn our streets into closed, desolate alleys.

This is a trend that can totally destroy how our beautiful neighborhoods feel. I am more concerned about this than the teardowns and bad remodels. If people are worried about security, wrought iron fencing works nicely. It still leaves the area feeling open and allows for an enjoyable walk or drive, a beautiful neighborhood.

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by booWorld

quote:Originally posted by Chris Halliwell

I'm sorry I wasn't paying more attention to the discussion here. I don't speak for Preserve Midtown, but I'm proud to be part of it and I helped with the website.

The opening paragraph says some developers "build houses right up to the curb." My first draft read simply "build right up to the curb", and I was referring to the privacy walls and personal parking lots that are replacing many of Midtown's lawns. I later added "house" simply to improve the layout, and I didn't see at the time that I changed the meaning. It was a mistake.

Where are those privacy walls and personal parking lots?  Are they built right up to the curb?  I'd like to see them.

You dont get out much do you?

[booWorld]

^ I spend most of my time between Standpipe Hill and 21st St.  A few years ago I saw a metal fence built right up to the curb near 13th and Lawton, and I complained about it.

Walls and fences are not supposed to be taller than 8 feet in residential districts, and not taller than 4 feet in required front yards.  This is what I see most of the time, but not always.  However, most infill is either walled or fenced off from the surrounding neighborhood, or at least that appears to be the trend in my neighborhood.  Most streets are 50 or 60 feet wide, so there is some open space.

[brunoflipper]

quote:Originally posted by booWorld

quote:Originally posted by Chris Halliwell

I'm sorry I wasn't paying more attention to the discussion here. I don't speak for Preserve Midtown, but I'm proud to be part of it and I helped with the website.

The opening paragraph says some developers "build houses right up to the curb." My first draft read simply "build right up to the curb", and I was referring to the privacy walls and personal parking lots that are replacing many of Midtown's lawns. I later added "house" simply to improve the layout, and I didn't see at the time that I changed the meaning. It was a mistake.

Where are those privacy walls and personal parking lots?  Are they built right up to the curb?  I'd like to see them.

check out 20th and madison... nice wall ...  being in the middle of an HP district didnt seem to make one damn difference... loverly...

[booWorld]

quote:Originally posted by brunoflipper

check out 20th and madison... nice wall ...  being in the middle of an HP district didnt seem to make one damn difference... loverly...

I looked at the wall.  It doesn't appear to be out of context or in violation of the zoning code.

There are several other walls in the vicinity.  The wall is not built to the curb.  The front yard facing 20th Street is very open with no walls or fences.  

As far as an HP overlay district not making a difference, a better example is the property to the west, a case in which the Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) process was ignored and then appealed to the Board of Adjustment (Case No. 20367 and Case No. 20437).

[brunoflipper]

the only other "walls in the vicinty" are retaining walls... so yeah, i'd say it is out of context... thats alright, it just gives the burglars something to hide behind...