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Medlock Badmouths Grieving Mother On-Air

Started by tim huntzinger, July 23, 2007, 07:13:14 PM

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iplaw

#45
July 26, 2007, 11:44:35 AM
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger

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Yeah, I read it.  I suppose that most of us have a different definition of "hateful" than you do...time to grow some thicker skin kid.

Conan71

#46
July 26, 2007, 11:49:02 AM
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Originally posted by tulsacyclist

quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

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Originally posted by tulsacyclist

I mean.. what kind of mother lets her 12 year old girl run around at 3AM anyways?
That's enough you heartless hatemonger.

Excellent response, I like it. =]

For the others..

So much for parental responsibility, lets blame the police and idiot guys with 'evil' assault rifles. I'd suggest calling TPD to request if they offer any childcare / chaperon services for young ones that wish to wander the streets past curfew. Surely they should have a program in place to accommodate this great need. Or I don't know, maybe get the message out that when parents start taking more responsibility for their children and the actions of their children they would likely remain much more safe?

I'm just sayin..


Nope, to hell with parental responsibility.  I'm tired of it.  I think the police should chaperone all our kids and I'm going to count on public school teachers to teach my kids morals and responsibility from now on.  That's what my taxes are paying for damn it!

Then I can go back to my crack pipe lifestyle I so love to indulge in, not have a care in the world and know someone else is taking good care of my kids for me.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

tim huntzinger

#47
July 26, 2007, 12:26:19 PM
That is cold-blooded.  The girl died trying to shield the teen after he was run over and shot.  I snuck out lots when I was a kid, never had a maniac accuse me of stealing a lost wallet and then shoot at me.

iplaw

#48
July 26, 2007, 01:23:26 PM
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger

That is cold-blooded.  The girl died trying to shield the teen after he was run over and shot.  I snuck out lots when I was a kid, never had a maniac accuse me of stealing a lost wallet and then shoot at me.
Again, for a parent to not know where a 12 year old is at 3am is issue.  Not the heroism of the child, nor the maniac that killed them.  Stop deflecting.

There are most definitely ways to keep kids from sneaking out of the house, and I'm sure this wasn't the first time this happened.  BTW, you're assuming that the kid actually snuck out and wasn't allowed out.  No one knows, but I'm willing to assume for the sake of conversation that the kid did, which brings me back to my original statement that an informed and conscientious parent could keep them from doing so.

Conan71

#49
July 26, 2007, 02:13:13 PM
According to the Tulsa World this morning, the girl was supposed to be going over to a friend's and was to return at mid-night.

Mid-night curfew for a 12 year-old?  In that part of town?

How reasonible is that?  Wouldn't even be a thought for my 14 y/o in So Tul.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

iplaw

#50
July 26, 2007, 02:16:47 PM
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Originally posted by Conan71

According to the Tulsa World this morning, the girl was supposed to be going over to a friend's and was to return at mid-night.

Mid-night curfew for a 12 year-old?  In that part of town?

How reasonible is that?  Wouldn't even be a thought for my 14 y/o in So Tul.
M'kay...this settles it for me then.  She's an idiot.  Not only was the child out with her permission, but she doesn't even have the common sense to know that it was stupid and tells the newspaper the story anyways, basically confessing to the world that she's a moron.

Conan71

#51
July 26, 2007, 03:22:22 PM
Sheesh dude.  You are cold-blooded.  Might as well apply for Mudlock's job.







Bwahhh-haahhhh hahhhhh
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

#52
July 26, 2007, 04:50:58 PM
Keeps getting worse.  Word around the campfire is that the shooter's wife eventually found the wallet at her house.  Sum total of $4 she was worried about.

Harris had better fry this one or he needs to start making plans for private practice.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

#53
July 26, 2007, 04:51:33 PM
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Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

According to the Tulsa World this morning, the girl was supposed to be going over to a friend's and was to return at mid-night.

Mid-night curfew for a 12 year-old?  In that part of town?

How reasonible is that?  Wouldn't even be a thought for my 14 y/o in So Tul.
M'kay...this settles it for me then.  She's an idiot.  Not only was the child out with her permission, but she doesn't even have the common sense to know that it was stupid and tells the newspaper the story anyways, basically confessing to the world that she's a moron.


Yeah IP, the mother should be punished. Her daughter deserved to die.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

cannon_fodder

#54
July 26, 2007, 05:07:30 PM
Does letting your child out in until midnight mean she deserves to die?
Does accepting a ride from a stranger mean you should die?
Does hanging out at a bar while 12 mean you should die?
Does being out at 3am in a bad part of town mean you should die?
Does robbing someone mean you should die? (since learned it was not a robbery, doesn't effect the analysis)

The answer to all of those is clearly NO.  However, every one of them increase the chances of something bad happening.  The fact that something bad happened is, while tragic, not utterly unforeseeable.  

If the situation was that an adult lowlife was gunned down following a robbery it would not be as big of a deal.  The only difference between an adult and a child is that the child is the lack of mental capacity.  A parent is suppose to substitute for that lack.

So who is to blame for pulling the trigger?  The shooter.  He is the murderer.

Who is to blame for all the circumstances listed above leading to those girls being in that place, at that time, committing that act?  

The MOTHER.  I hope she carries a heavy heart, because her actions played a significant roll in the death of her daughter.  I'm sorry for her loss, she certainly did not deserve to have her child die - but the sad truth is she contributed.  Hopefully some other mother who wants to let her 12 year old playboy daughter run around to bars until midnight can learn a lesson from this... so thank god someone brought it up.
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tim huntzinger

#55
July 27, 2007, 06:26:38 AM
Those are all great points, but what possible good does it do to wonder out loud on-air the day after the tragedy about what a loser the mother is? To what end? None.

Oh, and about cops looking after kiddos, I suppose all the child molester stings on the internet should be discontinued immediately, after all, if the parents are stupid enough to not supervise their kids . . .

Based on past threads I really do not expect more from some of the comments or am surprised at the sentiments expressed.  From someone who wants to represent Christianity and Conservative Republicanism, well, I think I have said it already.

iplaw

#56
July 27, 2007, 08:24:58 AM
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Originally posted by guido911
Yeah IP, the mother should be punished. Her daughter deserved to die.
Yeah...that's exactly what I said, you're spot on...

iplaw

#57
July 27, 2007, 08:26:59 AM
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Those are all great points, but what possible good does it do to wonder out loud on-air the day after the tragedy about what a loser the mother is? To what end? None.
Whether you think it's of any value or not is your own opinion.  What you said was that it was "hateful", and there's a world of difference between the two.  If you think what he said was "hateful" I feel sorry for you and honestly hope you grow some thicker skin...

tulsacyclist

#58
July 27, 2007, 09:08:33 AM
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger

From someone who wants to represent Christianity and Conservative Republicanism, well, I think I have said it already.

I would imagine Jesus endorses parental responsibility.
 

Conan71

#59
July 27, 2007, 09:13:31 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger

Those are all great points, but what possible good does it do to wonder out loud on-air the day after the tragedy about what a loser the mother is? To what end? None.

Oh, and about cops looking after kiddos, I suppose all the child molester stings on the internet should be discontinued immediately, after all, if the parents are stupid enough to not supervise their kids . . .

Based on past threads I really do not expect more from some of the comments or am surprised at the sentiments expressed.  From someone who wants to represent Christianity and Conservative Republicanism, well, I think I have said it already.




Tim, have you thought about writing KFAQ or calling Mudlock to express this?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan
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