River tax hike vote set for October 9

[MichaelBates]

County Commission votes 3-0.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=070802_1__Tulsa36326

[cannon_fodder]

I take it the quick vote means they are optimistic about the outcome.  

Thanks for the news.

[Breadburner]

I think I'm leaning more towards a no than a yes on this one......

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

I think I'm leaning more towards a no than a yes on this one......

Wow, that's a shock.

[tulsacyclist]

What a waste.. I agree with one of the comments there, well several but the one mentioning the polls on this. On every news channel I've flipped through and seen polls on the TV-channel-poll-voting people of Tulsa are AGAINST this plan/tax hike.

So why does it make sense to run it through the voting process?

[MichaelC]

Because having nearly 40% "for", 2+ months ahead of election, without the ad push, is pretty good.

It's not doomed yet.  Wait until the details start to get out, and that $111 million private contribution starts running through peoples minds.

[NellieBly]

If it passes, will we have to rename the River Kaiser River or BOK River?

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

Because having nearly 40% "for", 2+ months ahead of election, without the ad push, is pretty good.

It's not doomed yet.  Wait until the details start to get out, and that $111 million private contribution starts running through peoples minds.

And the $57 for commerical land aquision and site prep.

Gwen and Medlock were whining about wanting Branson Landing here and why can't we have it instead.

It's not instead you lying fools, it's part of the damn plan, and you know it.

Less than half a cent for close to a Billion dollars in river development, if not over a Billion.

[tulsacyclist]

Good points.

For now I'm sticking with a no but I'd like to see what comes out in the next 2 months. Something  could surely change my mind.

Maybe Kaiser should drop a little more money on this for his tax breaks and we can just call it Kaiser Landing.

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

I think I'm leaning more towards a no than a yes on this one......

Wow, that's a shock.

Not to me it's not.....

[DwnTwnTul]

As a young professional, trust me, this will NOT keep my peers in town.  If anything, this will run us out even faster.  We don't want to disturb a beautiful natural river for something such as Riverwalk in Jenks.  We want a lively downtown, interesting clubs and restaurants, NOT "cookie cutter" Jenks up and down the river.  I'd vote for quality roads in a heartbeat.  Ours currently resemble roads from third world countries.

[rwarn17588]

I'm not optimistic. That poll the other day showed a 52 percent negative against it.

Those are awfully high bad numbers to overcome.

People are sick of the bad roads, and want money spent on those instead. Plain and simple.

[tim huntzinger]

No one concerned that the City of Tulsa lost a seat on the Authority?  I heard from one Councilor that Smaligo's move may cost the support of the Council, and that the Mayor is pretty hacked.

[Chicken Little]

Still on the fence.  I feel that this will have a net positive effect on our local economy. And so, I see it as an investment.  One that will raise our image and quality of life.

But it feels a lot like an impulse buy.  Sure, it's "on sale" (huge private match), but I fear that it really puts the squeeze on the City's ability to go back to the voters on things like streets.  I don't want a 8.9% sales tax (is that right?), but if we choose it,  we'll survive.  I worry though that it makes it a little harder for the City to go back to the voters for the extra penny (or more) to make the streets passable.  And I'm sure that that one can't be put off for 10 more years.

If the County were looking at property taxes, I'd be much more willing to embrace this thing.  Can one of you conservative types explain why property taxes are a sacred cow?  And it'd be particularly helpful if the answer amounted to something more than, "Because I'm a stingy cheapskate!"[]

[NellieBly]

Get ready for a ton of commercials. Kaiser is planning on spending 1 million to buy pass this project.