Downtown Wal-Mart

[joiei]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

The one ache for me on a Wal-Mart downtown is a building with long walls and no windows.

Downtowns have pedestrians and long, blank walls where nobody is looking seem like magnets for street crime such as muggings, drug dealing, etc.

If there were windows looking out, then people would be witness and the illegal activities would probably go elsewhere.

What is our chance at getting a downtown Wal-Mart with windows on three sides?

Windows are more expensive and from my observations, Wal-Mart is in it for the cash, not to bow to community astetics.  I do not have trouble with a wal-mart downtown, but I sure hope you guys can make that 800lb gorilla bcome more community friendly.  I think an Art Deco design would be great.  I saw what they did in New Orleans to make the store front fit into that community.  Still a wal-mart but at least they put effort into the design.

[TheArtist]

In my "compromise proposal" I had the front of the Wal-Mart look like a row of shops and the South side of the building on 6th street have an actual row of shops on it. The north side can have more fake facade or a Garden Center and car repair if they have those on this one.

[cannon_fodder]

Artist, I've come to the conclusion that I can back whatever plan you come with on this.  You consistently post ideas on this issue that make sense for both Wal-Mart and the community.  I hope they listen.

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Artist, I've come to the conclusion that I can back whatever plan you come with on this.  You consistently post ideas on this issue that make sense for both Wal-Mart and the community.  I hope they listen.

+1

[Rico]

In this "Street Artist" reactionary statement , to a Downtown WalMart, one can plainly see that  WalMart was made for areas such as New Orleans....

Tulsa will be far more receptive...?

Crime should go way down and give Convention and Arena goers that subtle feeling of calm and tranquility....

[}:)]

[cannon_fodder]

So, what your saying, is that those against a Wal-Mart downtown are comparable to people who live in a total ghetto, strip nice cars in their areas, allow their property to become totally decrepit, and threaten any business that considers constructing in the area?  While i disagree with their position, that comparison is a bit exaggerated.

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

So, what your saying, is that those against a Wal-Mart downtown are comparable to people who live in a total ghetto, strip nice cars in their areas, allow their property to become totally decrepit, and threaten any business that considers constructing in the area?  While i disagree with their position, that comparison is a bit exaggerated.

Not at all... This was a post Katrina pic.

I think they were actually for the WalMart..
The Limo had seen better days.. Granted.

But just as this fellow
they are very much looking forward to a new "stomping ground"... and the $money$...

[TheArtist]

Any new business downtown, or along Cherry Street as we have seen, will have to contend with "being a new stomping ground".

[joiei]

Wal-Mart did open a store in New Orleans.  It is uptown, not in the ninth ward.  It replaced a part of the St Thomas housing project.  And the rest of that project has also been replaced with new townhomes.  The area looks so much better than it did.

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

Any new business downtown, or along Cherry Street as we have seen, will have to contend with "being a new stomping ground".

Artist you never are at a loss for an opinion are you..?

Tell me how many little stores on Cherry St have indoor retail area of 180 thousand sq ft and a parking lot of approx 3 acres..?

Quite a large area to "stomp in" ...?
and a nice parking lot for the commuters....

Sounds great...! "If you can't find a mark at the Arena... try down the street at Wally's"

For the "newbie" that says the Wally World Corp helped replace a "project" with upscale condo's...
I assure you this was a coincidence not an example of the WalMart planning to help the community.  

[TheArtist]

So? If they are a pain for the Wal-Mart, so what? If they run off the shoppers. They run off the Wal-Mart. I cant quite tell if your for Wal-Mart or against them with this.

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

So? If they are a pain for the Wal-Mart, so what? If they run off the shoppers. They run off the Wal-Mart. I cant quite tell if your for Wal-Mart or against them with this.

Drive out to the "big box" at Admiral and Memorial at say 8:30 on a Friday evening.......

Park your fine automobile rigt in the light abd tell me the sensations you experience during your trip to the store and getting back to your car.

That is the same panorama the people that visit Downtown Wally will have. The proximity to the "strip joint" will of course be different..
Ours will be the "Newly remodeled Bookstore and Movie Arcade"

Oh Yeah... I'm for Wally...

Bring on the Slingers and their twenty Pee Wees.........

[}:)]

[YoungTulsan]

It was already mentioned in a TW article a few months back, that the design plan will be ugly, and suburban.  Their solution to drifters and hobos is to surround the giant surface parking lot with black fencing.  Also the plan for the apartments.  Look at the housing for TU along 11th street they just built (complete with black metal fence) and you have a pretty good idea of what kind of housing they probably want to put in the Walmart development.

I would imagine the fencing would be in the spirit of anti-pedestrian design, because people without cars must be up to no good.

Go back through the articles, they detailed the "surface parking surrounded by black metal fence" plan a while back.

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by YoungTulsan

It was already mentioned in a TW article a few months back, that the design plan will be ugly, and suburban.  Their solution to drifters and hobos is to surround the giant surface parking lot with black fencing.  Also the plan for the apartments.  Look at the housing for TU along 11th street they just built (complete with black metal fence) and you have a pretty good idea of what kind of housing they probably want to put in the Walmart development.

I would imagine the fencing would be in the spirit of anti-pedestrian design, because people without cars must be up to no good.

Go back through the articles, they detailed the "surface parking surrounded by black metal fence" plan a while back.

That takes care of the hobos.... they are overlooking the fact that the fence will work only for the undesirables on foot....
What the heck Seay and Company will be long gone by the time this is an issue..


The fence will work both ways... It may keep things in or out.

Yes.... apartments... a true Fort in the middle of Downtown...


Slingers will be lined up a block long for their piece of this action.


[}:)]

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by Rico

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

So? If they are a pain for the Wal-Mart, so what? If they run off the shoppers. They run off the Wal-Mart. I cant quite tell if your for Wal-Mart or against them with this.

Drive out to the "big box" at Admiral and Memorial at say 8:30 on a Friday evening.......

Park your fine automobile rigt in the light abd tell me the sensations you experience during your trip to the store and getting back to your car.

That is the same panorama the people that visit Downtown Wally will have. The proximity to the "strip joint" will of course be different..
Ours will be the "Newly remodeled Bookstore and Movie Arcade"

Oh Yeah... I'm for Wally...

Bring on the Slingers and their twenty Pee Wees.........

[}:)]

I have been to that Wal-Mart. Dont know what "sensations" you are talking about other than the sinking feeling that occasionally my thoughts and attitudes are that of a spoiled, extremely fortunate, donkey and that I should use more of my time to help people and help the world become a better place. Is that the feeling you are talking about?