Should Siegfried be reappointed to TAA?

[Wrinkle]

Mayor Taylor has renominated Meredith Siegfried to our Airports Authority.

Given all the problems associated with TAA/TAIT, it seems this should be scrutinized openly by this forum and our City Council.

Here's some reference material

[Conan71]

Ms. Siegfried is a board member with Nordam by birthright, not necessarily merit.

She's a board member of the TAA likely due to political patronage.

I like the suggestion of having an "at large" member chosen from the nearby airport residents.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Ms. Siegfried is a board member with Nordam by birthright, not necessarily merit.

I didn't want to say that, but I agree with you...

[Double A]

No.

[Wrinkle]

This issue should be receiving a significant amount of debate. It should be of huge interest to everyone in the region.

Because it hasn't indicates, to me, a large group swallow and throat clearing, followed by humming to oneselves.

Doesn't appear to be much support for the Mayor here, in a Mayor-friendly environment.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

This issue should be receiving a significant amount of debate. It should be of huge interest to everyone in the region.

Because it hasn't indicates, to me, a large group swallow and throat clearing, followed by humming to oneselves.

Doesn't appear to be much support for the Mayor here, in a Mayor-friendly environment.

As a public policy issue, I think adding someone from the airport Users Group would be a fine replacement for Ms. Siegfiend.

The Siegfiend Family has been trying to mine the pockets of local taxpayers since as least as far back as the 1997 The Tulsa Project, an earlier manifestation of the Vision 2025 Tax-and-Spend Scheme.

A major feature of the Tulsa Project was the buyout of Nordam's downtown plant, a veritable Toxic Waste site.

Their newer main plant is now located out north in an industrial park, and the downtown location plant is kept in operation by a skeleton crew of personnel.  

Why?  

By keeping the site in operation, it forestalls the EPA Pollution CLEAN-UP requirement for all the toxic pollution caused to the site over the decades of usage.

Since this site comprises largely what is being promoted as the East Village Development, it makes ones wonder what back-room machinations are occuring to first transfer the ENVIRONMENTAL LIABILITY from Nordam to a city governmental authority for "laundering" of the same said environmental liability, and then the immediatly subsequent re-sale to private developers.

Let's see how the taxpayer hosing may be planned:  

1.  City Authority first OVERPAYS for the Nordam Plant Toxic Waste site.

2.  City Authority assumes the future environmental liability and future clean-up COSTS.

3.  City Authority then re-sells the Nordam Plant for a fraction of what they earlier paid for it.

For an anticipated thrice-fold hosing of the taxpayer.

Siegfiend?

Sieg Heil!

[Conan71]

I don't see any relevance of someone from Nordam being on the board, unless storing a few Gulfstreams at the airport counts.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

I don't see any relevance of someone from Nordam being on the board, unless storing a few Gulfstreams at the airport counts.

How say we say it concerning the Siegfiend inherited membership on TAIT?

Ius Primae Noctis ?

Un Droit de Seigneur?

Un certain "Je ne sais quois": First Night.

And, WE'RE THE NEW BLUSHING BRIDE....

[:O]

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

This issue should be receiving a significant amount of debate. It should be of huge interest to everyone in the region.

Because it hasn't indicates, to me, a large group swallow and throat clearing, followed by humming to oneselves.

Doesn't appear to be much support for the Mayor here, in a Mayor-friendly environment.

As a public policy issue, I think adding someone from the airport Users Group would be a fine replacement for Ms. Siegfiend.

The Siegfiend Family has been trying to mine the pockets of local taxpayers since as least as far back as the 1997 The Tulsa Project, an earlier manifestation of the Vision 2025 Tax-and-Spend Scheme.

A major feature of the Tulsa Project was the buyout of Nordam's downtown plant, a veritable Toxic Waste site.

Their newer main plant is now located out north in an industrial park, and the downtown location plant is kept in operation by a skeleton crew of personnel.  

Why?  

By keeping the site in operation, it forestalls the EPA Pollution CLEAN-UP requirement for all the toxic pollution caused to the site over the decades of usage.

Since this site comprises largely what is being promoted as the East Village Development, it makes ones wonder what back-room machinations are occuring to first transfer the ENVIRONMENTAL LIABILITY from Nordam to a city governmental authority for "laundering" of the same said environmental liability, and then the immediatly subsequent re-sale to private developers.

Let's see how the taxpayer hosing may be planned:  

1.  City Authority first OVERPAYS for the Nordam Plant Toxic Waste site.

2.  City Authority assumes the future environmental liability and future clean-up COSTS.

3.  City Authority then re-sells the Nordam Plant for a fraction of what they earlier paid for it.

For an anticipated thrice-fold hosing of the taxpayer.

Siegfiend?

Sieg Heil!

Maybe they should just start injecting their waste into the same aquifer that AA puts theirs in...[]

[Wrinkle]

Bump.

...it's getting closer.

[waterboy]

I hope the refineries are watching the process and taking notes. Maybe we could do the same transfer of liability for them ...only transfer the liability for cleanup to the state or federal authorities.

[Vision 2025]

With Vision 2025 funds American Airlines constructed a new state of the art industrial pre-treatment plant and lab to treat monitor and test the industrial waste water generated at the Tulsa Maintenance Base.  with these facilities operating this TREATED waste water is now it is discharged (by strict permit) into a new sanitary sewer main that the City of Tulsa constructed to the East side of the airport industrial area which is serving this side of the airport which includes the new East side aerospace industrial development area.    

Previous to these improvements this waste stream was pumped into what are NOW CLOSED injection wells.

[Conan71]

What sucks about the AA grant to build a waste water treatment system is that many smaller, but vital plating and metal finishing  operations went out of business over the years because they could not afford to install a WWT system and there was ZERO help from the state, city, or county.  AA could have easily paid for this upgrade out of their own funds.

[Vision 2025]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

What sucks about the AA grant to build a waste water treatment system is that many smaller, but vital plating and metal finishing  operations went out of business over the years because they could not afford to install a WWT system and there was ZERO help from the state, city, or county.  AA could have easily paid for this upgrade out of their own funds.

Obviously anything I say or input you will have issue with[B)].  In this instance, I was simply correcting an errant post and pointing out that AA has done more than just add tooling.  

With these particular improvements they (AA)  provided an added benefit to the community and our enviroment by developing a long term solution to the waste stream they generate in the course of being the areas largest employer and yes closing injection wells with funds provided to them by an overwhelming majority vote of Tulsa County... but from following this site and responding to comments over the past couple of years I fully understand that many who are the most active on this site simply can't accept that Vision 2025 did in fact PASS[!].

[RecycleMichael]

Thank you for posting the correct information about American Airlines and their waste treatment upgrades.

I used this as one of the reasons I supported the entire project.

There are other injection wells still being used in Tulsa County.