Golfing article complaining about Tulsa tournament

[sgrizzle]

The article is actually pro-Tulsa.

http://www.worldgolf.com/news/pga/championship-southern-hills-tulsa-heat-cbs-commentary-5817.htm

[TheArtist]

Pro Tulsa, Anti August in Tulsa.

I think I may start boycotting August myself.  Oh, and January.  

[AMP]

One reason that outdoor events have more attendence in Illinois, Ohio and Indiana is the fact that those states have much milder wearher in the summer months.  You actually see thousands of motorcyclists riding all over the state and attending outdoor concerts, motorsports events and festivals.  

Oklahoma has how many weekends during the summer that are mild, not raining or over 85 degrees?  

[rwarn17588]

Yeah, and Illinois has long, cold winters (as a former resident, I can attest), while many times in Tulsa during the winter you can go out with a light jacket or even shirt sleeves.

So Oklahoma gets hot in the summer. Big deal. Illinois gets so cold in the winter to where you don't want to go outside, either.

It all evens out over time.

[Renaissance]

What Southern Hills needs to do is become a regular stop on the Tour.  In April.

[Johnboy976]

I love one of the posters who replied to the post saying that Southern Hills is a test, not a convenience. It puts the pampered players in their place.

[AMP]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Yeah, and Illinois has long, cold winters (as a former resident, I can attest), while many times in Tulsa during the winter you can go out with a light jacket or even shirt sleeves.

So Oklahoma gets hot in the summer. Big deal. Illinois gets so cold in the winter to where you don't want to go outside, either.

It all evens out over time.

My point being that summer is the time when families are taking vacations, kids are out of school and people have time to travel and attend and in today's extreme family theme actually participate in outdoor events, races and festivals.  Must have the participants to have those types of events, and with many amateur and sportsman events there are upwards of 1,400 participants such as a GNC Motocross.    

Take Springfield for instance.  Pro Racing is held on Saturday and Sunday with Amateurs racing on Friday night.  The model is designed for the amateurs and their families stay over to watch the professional races on Saturday and Sunday.  Same with Motosross, typically Pros on Friday and Saturday with Amateurs on Sunday on the same course that the Pros ran on.  It is a very big event for the amateur and youth classes to be allowed to participate on that level of a venue with professional preperation of the surface.  

In August the tour heads to the pacific North West to Washington State, then back down to Sturgis, then over to the West Coast Swing where normally the temps are in the 80s.  In September it comes back to Illinois and ends either in Columbus Ohio or DuQuoin, Illinois.  

Granted, Oklahoma may have milder winters, however the rain, ice and snow coupled with the fact that vacation time typically runs from June to mid August does not help with the production of Outdoor Events during the winter  months.

We do have large indoor events in Tulsa during the winter months.  Most savvy Tulsa winter months event organizers and show producers have either held their events indoors from the start, or have moved their events indoors due to the low number of "chamber of commerce weather" weekeds available in Tulsa. Those shows include the Tulsa Shootout, Starbird Rod & Custom Show, Xtreme World Arena Cross, Chili Bowl, Boat Sport and Travel Show, Indoor Fun Fair, Tulsa Arenacross, Auto Rama among others.    

Many outdoor national shows follow the footsteps of the Carnival/County Fair schedule, which follows the mild weather at the close of the summer and beginning of the spring. Most travel from the Pacific Northwest down to Florida where many would stay for the Winter months.  

AMA for instance ran at Castle Rock, Washington this past weekend.  They start in Daytona Florida in March, and follow the milder weather to the North all summer.  Similar to the same tours used by the County Fairs and Carnivals.

[rwarn17588]

I don't buy your theory, AMP.

Sure, people are on vacation in the summer. That means they're going OUT OF TOWN a lot and are not worrying much about local events.

The key to local events is whether they're on the weekend. Everything else is secondary. Weather is a big factor, but that's uncontrollable no matter where you are.

Sure, you can have plenty of summer events in Illinois. But guess what? I gets really frickin' hot there, too. The temperatures are 5 degrees cooler, but the humidity is worse. In the St. Louis area, where I lived, "real feel" temperatures of 100-110 regularly occurred during summer.

It's hot in the summer. Get over it.

The nice part about Oklahoma is that you can have pleasant outdoor events into November. You try that in the Illinois and the upper Midwest, you'll freeze your kiester off.

[YoungTulsan]

Over half the country was as hot or hotter than Tulsa this week.  I guess that makes us the television scapegoat for the week?

[cannon_fodder]

quote:Originally posted by aoxamaxoa


Neve [sic] expect to see the PGA back here.....

Did you say the same thing in:

1958
1970
1977
1982
1994
1995
1996
2001
and of course, 2007?

News flash!  Its hot in August. "NAY!  NAY"  - AOX.

From the article referenced above:

quote:The Arkansas River runs through here, and there's a beautiful park that parallels it, following the contours of the river. People jog and ride bicycles through the park, past beautiful sculptures here and there.

My hometown, Jacksonville, Fla., doesn't like parks because developers can't make money off them, and city officials wouldn't know a sculpture from a scupper.

It's very green here, ringed by the foothills of the Ozark Mountains. It's the birthplace of Route 66 and the home of Western swing.

It's said Tulsa is the cradle of culture and art of Oklahoma, which I assume is a compliment. You can drive a few minutes outside the city and see real cowboys and Indians, not the fake kind you see in Dallas It's like you're in the middle of "Lonesome Dove."

Tulsa is a good-sized city, with about 900,000 people in the whole metro area, but you rarely get the feeling of strangling congestion. There's plenty to do here, and plenty of room to do nothing, if you prefer.

But, Tulsa has one big drawback: Every year around this time, August inevitably shows up, bringing with it the sort of heat that would melt a monkey.

Good find Sq.

[rwarn17588]

Tiger Woods winning at Southern Hills has added to the course's already considerable cachet.

The PGA will be back. It'll just be awhile because the tour now schedules tournaments further in advance than it once did.

[aoxamaxoa]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Tiger Woods winning at Southern Hills has added to the course's already considerable cachet.

The PGA will be back. It'll just be awhile because the tour now schedules tournaments further in advance than it once did.

So sorry. No more PGA. They don't play nice with others.....

[Renaissance]

It's going to be awhile, but they'll be back.  I don't know all the ins and outs of PGA politics, but they'll be back.  The course has too much history to be written off permanently.  Look for another stop sooner or later, probably for the Tour Championship, which plays in the fall.

Seriously, though, there's always talk after these things of making SHCC a regular stop.  That would be great for Tulsa.

[Moderator]

Off-topic and name calling deleted.

Please stay on topic and play nice.

[MichaelC]

Aw Mod.  I knew I was in for it as soon as you got done washing your tights.

On topic, nice article, August sucks.