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Golfing article complaining about Tulsa tournament

Started by sgrizzle, August 12, 2007, 02:38:30 PM

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RecycleMichael

This from today's Tulsa World...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sports/article.aspx?articleID=070814_2_B1_MELWo42784

Will a major return?

By JIMMIE TRAMEL World Sports Writer
8/14/2007

After a successful PGA and a much-needed rest, Southern Hills could host again

THE RECENTLY completed PGA Championship was the seventh golf major at Southern Hills. What's next? "We want to have another major," said Al Bush, longtime Southern Hills member and general chairman of the PGA Championship. It will be later rather than sooner. U.S. Open sites are locked up through 2014 and seven of the next eight PGA Championship sites have been selected, with 2014 being the exception. But wheels are in motion for Southern Hills, which has hosted three U.S. Opens and four PGAs, to get back in the rotation.

"I feel very confident with the way the course held up with some of the world's greatest players and the greens and the hospitality and everything else that I think they are anxious to come back at some point, either the USGA for a U.S. Open or the PGA for a PGA Championship," said Jack Short, a former Southern Hills president and board member who will serve as general chairman of the 2010 U.S. Amateur at Southern Hills. "I think our chances are real good. But I think we need to let Tulsa have a rest and let Southern Hills have a rest for at least eight years."

Because Tulsa was awarded a U.S. Amateur, interpret that to mean Southern Hills is on the waiting list for a U.S. Open. Both tournaments are run by the USGA. "When you look back and see who got U.S. Opens, they have hosted a U.S. Amateur in the last five or six years," Short said. "We felt like should we ever want to have another U.S. Open, it would be incumbent on us wanting to host a U.S. Amateur."

Said Bush in regard to the possibility of another U.S. Open in Tulsa, "They said they wanted to come and we have had good relationships with them. I would expect them to come back." With the PGA Championship barely over, Short indicated it may be too early to speculate about another PGA. "But I talked to a number of their board members and the executive director of the PGA and they were very impressed," Short said. "They left no doubt that they wanted to come back to Tulsa at some point in the future. They were impressed with the way we treated them."

It is also believed that Southern Hills would like to host a Ryder Cup, which falls under the umbrella of the PGA of America. The Ryder Cup pits U.S. pros against European pros. It is held every two years, with sites rotating between the U.S. and Europe. U.S. sites are reserved through 2020. Short said no promises were made by the PGA of America in regard to future events. "But we wanted to make sure we gave them the right answers and we did. They were so impressed with the conditions and everything and how friendly everybody was."

Kerry Haigh, the PGA's managing director of tournaments, was asked about the possibility of another major in Southern Hills' future. "Well, that's up to Southern Hills if they want to," he said. "The membership has been through a lot of changes the past few years. But we're certainly and extremely pleased with the support and cooperation of Southern Hills and the membership. We couldn't be more happy with the relationship we have with this place. We're very happy, in fact."
Power is nothing till you use it.

cannon_fodder

The WORLD also published some AP articles on players lavishing accords on Southern Hills as a challenging course and Tulsa as a good host.  Most noting the friendliness of citizens.  The general consensus on the heat seems to be "so what, its August."  

AOX - go set them straight!
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aoxamaxoa

Come on. Whadaya spect from the Chamber Whirled of disinformation.

cannon_fodder

Well, they cited PGA officials, golfers, tour directors, Southern Hills committee members, sponsors, and history.  You have cited nothing (as usual).
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aoxamaxoa

Set up by CF. Dang.

CF, do you think the local paper does actual journalism?

I can't get into this disinformation. I have my sources and the Whirled has it's. Kinda.




cannon_fodder

quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

I can't get into this disinformation. I have my sources and the Whirled has it's. Kinda.



Yours are super secret, theirs are cited.  I have secret sources too, that guarantee we will get another major.  So there!
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aoxamaxoa

I think we will get another major too. A US OPEN. In the early 20's.

What's your problem?

cannon_fodder

lol, not really sure.  Long weekend I suppose.  Added with heat and a looming workweek.  generally hostile I suppose. [;)]
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Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

Set up by CF. Dang.

CF, do you think the local paper does actual journalism?

I can't get into this disinformation. I have my sources and the Whirled has it's. Kinda.




Either Al Bush is just being polite, or maybe not all members at SHCC are that pissed at the PGA.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

aoxamaxoa


Conan71

Sorry not an SHCC member if you are referring to that clan- wouldn't have a clue.

If you are referring to the CIA/governor/president Bushes the joke is still lost on me.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

aoxamaxoa

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Sorry not an SHCC member if you are referring to that clan- wouldn't have a clue.

If you are referring to the CIA/governor/president Bushes the joke is still lost on me.



yes....an ironic joke.

A play on words....


Vision 2025

quote:
Originally posted by Floyd

What Southern Hills needs to do is become a regular stop on the Tour.  In April.

Great idea but from having done a couple of courses... no Bermuda is ready for tournament play that early in Oklahoma and the greens would likely be iffy too.

Please get us a Ryder Cup... October here we come!
Vision 2025 Program Director - know the facts, www.Vision2025.info

AMP

My sister and brother n law were and may
still be members, I don't keep up with it
that much. I do know a few other members.
It is always a very busy time for those
folks during the major golf games.  I
don't speak golf much, so it is not a
hot topic to me.  LOL  

I used to really enjoy hanging out at
the pool there and ordering cheeseburgers
and fries when we were in Jr High.  The
club always had a really nice fireworks
display every 4th of July.  We always laid
on our backs on the mowed grass in front of
the Club House and watched the display,
that was my other most favorite time there
when I was in college.

We hung out with the Bernards, Cecil Canary's daughter's kids.  Cecil was one
of the pioneers that helped form the
Club.  We would ride our motorcycles
aound and stop to swim at Randy Wheeler's
house. His dad built the Camelot Inn, Mansion House and University Club Towers.
Randy had a monkey and he would tease
around with it. Damnit Randy became his
nick name.    Our rock band practiced at
Geoff Bond's parents home, Ridge and Maxine's Bond's home near Evanston Circle.  Linda lived
at the end of the block, and would have
Leon Russell and Ronnie Dunn and Clapton
and others having jam sessions there quite often.

Her husband, and her were the victims of a brutal attack one evening while leaving
their business.  Linda's husband was shot
to death during the robbery, and Linda
suffered some injuries.  Emily Smith,
Jamie Oldaker and Dicky Sims,
Lou and Sam Routh, Dick Gordon and
others were around on occasion then.  Other
than the attack on the Freemans and the
loss of her husband, those were some very
fun times.        

I recall another major golf event being
held at SHCC when I was in Jr. High at
Nimitz.  Seemed to of been around 1964-1966 ear.  It was during school time because
we had passes to attend.  School then
began after Labor Day around September 9th
and was out prior to Memorial Day so it
could of been and seems like it was in September.   School schedules made much
more sense then as it allowed families to
have two summer vacation times together.
This starting in the middle of August never made much sense to me, glad I was a kid
then and not now.  I remember some
ossilating fan that hit you for about
5 seconds every minute or so in school. LOL

PreserveSouthTulsa.com

Maybe we could just hold our Tulsa PGA tournament in another city and call it the Southern Hills PGA Championship at Portland, Oregon.  Or maybe we can ask these guys for advice on a name:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Beach_Armada_of_Los_Angeles_of_California_of_the_United_States_of_North_America_Including_Barrow,_Alaska