Back to back ozone alert days

[RecycleMichael]

Tomorrow is going to be another ozone alert day.

We failed yesterday at the Glenpool and Lynn Lane monitors. They had eight hour averages over 92 parts per million and the limit is 85.

Today is looking tough at both sites as well. It is too early to tell, but the noon readings were over a hundred parts per million.

The EPA gives you three bad days and regulates a community by the fourth worst day of readings.

We may burn through out three strikes in three straight days.

We need some wind.

[aoxamaxoa]

Thank goodness you were right about the wind last week. We did not need the media blasting us over air quality as well as the heat.

There were a couple of refinery flare shots as the cameras scanned the horizon.

You think the Bush EPA really will do anything?

[RecycleMichael]

They have to. Environmental groups will sue and win.

[aoxamaxoa]

The way our court system werks?

It would take forever....

[patric]

Hmm, I guess we should have been using the low Reid Vapor Pressure (RVP) gasoline like we promised the EPA in our "Early Action Compact" instead of that cheaper stuff from Coffeyville[)]

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7015

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by patric

Hmm, I guess we should have been using the low Reid Vapor Pressure (RVP) gasoline like we promised the EPA in our "Early Action Compact" instead of that cheaper stuff from Coffeyville[)]

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7015

                                                Oooh, snap!

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by patric

Hmm, I guess we should have been using the low Reid Vapor Pressure (RVP) gasoline like we promised the EPA in our "Early Action Compact" instead of that cheaper stuff from Coffeyville[)]

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7015

they already give us that low octane premium ****...how about they put some teeth into the incentives for natural gas vehicles.....until then I say up yours!

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by patric

Hmm, I guess we should have been using the low Reid Vapor Pressure (RVP) gasoline like we promised the EPA in our "Early Action Compact" instead of that cheaper stuff from Coffeyville[)]

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7015

they already give us that low octane premium ****...how about they put some teeth into the incentives for natural gas vehicles.....until then I say up yours!

Better yet, incentives for zero emission vehicles. Bring back vehicle inspection stickers to pay for it.

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by patric

Hmm, I guess we should have been using the low Reid Vapor Pressure (RVP) gasoline like we promised the EPA in our "Early Action Compact" instead of that cheaper stuff from Coffeyville[)]

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7015

But we are mostly using the better(lower vapor pressure) gasoline. Each of the five major producers for fuel for the Tulsa area are still helping.

The early action compact is all voluntary measures that we are trying to do curry favor with EPA. The intent is to make a list of everything you do...then, if you fail, EPA knows it is not your fault. You did everything you could and the weather conditions made it impossible to succeed.

By the way, we failed terribly today. That's two. You get three strikes and tomorrow is going to be tough unless the wind picks up.

[tulsacyclist]

I really need to mow.. someone want to lend me a Reel mower for a couple days?

[T-Town Now]

One thing Tulsa could do that would help is to adjust the traffic lights so they are more efficient at regulating traffic. An idling car emits more pollution than one that's at speed.

I've sat at 31st and Riverside, 41st and Riverside, lots of intersections downtown, and a few others with no traffic coming from the other direction. NONE. And yet, there are 20 cars idling at red lights. There's no use to cycle lights if there's no traffic.

I would bet half of the lights downtown could be turned off and it would likely help traffic flow. That would reduce pollution and save electricity.

[RecycleMichael]

There is actually a plan to do that.

The city of Tulsa Public Works department has been doing timing studies and making adjustments this summer.

You are correct, Idling cars cause more pollution.

[rwarn17588]

The cool part about my car is it automatically shuts its engine off when stopped at an intersection. No idling pollution.

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

quote:Originally posted by patric

Hmm, I guess we should have been using the low Reid Vapor Pressure (RVP) gasoline like we promised the EPA in our "Early Action Compact" instead of that cheaper stuff from Coffeyville[)]

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7015

But we are mostly using the better(lower vapor pressure) gasoline. Each of the five major producers for fuel for the Tulsa area are still helping.

The early action compact is all voluntary measures that we are trying to do curry favor with EPA. The intent is to make a list of everything you do...then, if you fail, EPA knows it is not your fault. You did everything you could and the weather conditions made it impossible to succeed.

By the way, we failed terribly today. That's two. You get three strikes and tomorrow is going to be tough unless the wind picks up.

We have everything we could to avoid it? Get real. We've done the absolute least we could possibly do. Hell, we don't even offer free bus rides on ozone alert days anymore. This apologist/enabler mentality is why we are in the mess we are in today, that and poor leadership from the "so-called" environmental stewards(uncle Tom's) of this city. Ozone Alerts are a joke, they are a feel good solution that don't substantively solve a damn thing. All it does is sedate the chicken ****, conformist, consumer masses by giving them illusion that our city leaders are solving the problem so they will return to their complacent apathy comas and bury their heads back in the bar codes of their fascist feudalist massers. It's just more of the same status quo in Tulsa, style over substance. I wanna be sedated, too. I wonder why the kool-aid doesn't work on me? It just makes me sick and tired. Tulsa needs an intervention. Maybe the dirty air list is the rock bottom this old junky needs to save itself from itself. I think I'll go fill up my tank, mow the lawn and then do a little joyriding. Cheers!

[RecycleMichael]

DoubleA...angry and uninformed as usual.

The air quality program and steps are voluntary. If you feel like polluting the air like you do this forum, go ahead.

Thousands of other Tulsans do care. Bus ridership is up 30% on ozone days. The city and others suspend mowing operations. We don't do it because of some federal regulation, we do it because it is OUR air that WE breathe.