Randi Miller wants Bell's business plan released

[rwarn17588]

I think you've hit on it, guido -- the nostalgia factor.

I noticed an awful lot of people complaining about Bell's demise were those who were there 30 years ago and hadn't been to it in decades.

[RecycleMichael]

A publicly elected official asks in a public meeting for a plan from a company that has a contract producing income for a county entity on government owned property.

It may be sensitive in nature, but that makes it open to public scrutiny in my opinion.

Release the plan. We have a right to know.

[Oil Capital]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

A publicly elected official asks in a public meeting for a plan from a company that has a contract producing income for a county entity on government owned property.

It may be sensitive in nature, but that makes it open to public scrutiny in my opinion.

Release the plan. We have a right to know.

We have a right to know what was in the agreement between the county and Bell's.  And that is available.  Nothing more.  

Again, I ask, what could possibly be in the business plan that would justify the sudden and seemingly random decision to evict?  I've been trying to let my imagination run wild and have not been able to come up with anything.

Sounds like a smokescreen to me.   She knows she won't be allowed to release the business plan, so she's throwing that out there as an excuse for her irresponsible actions.

I agree, it could be sweet justice if Bell's would call her bluff and put the business plan out there for all to see.

[MichaelC]

I don't get it.  Miller wants to release the business plan, because apparently she's taking flack over it?  As far as I know, that's part of the job description, to take a lot of crap from people, get terrorized by bloggers, and sometimes get thoroughly embarrassed.  

People aren't happy?  Seriously?  When did this happen?

This career path she's chosen, may not be right for her.

[AMP]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=070821_1_A9_hPeop58735

Expo's $5 Million Dollar Kitchen

Can we see Exposerve Management Corp's Business Plan?

May as well provide the Business Plans for the Tulsa Driller's, Big Splash, Shoe Warehouse, Fair Meadows(?) and any other private business renting full time space on the grounds while we are at it.  

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

I don't get it.  Miller wants to release the business plan, because apparently she's taking flack over it?  As far as I know, that's part of the job description, to take a lot of crap from people, get terrorized by bloggers, and sometimes get thoroughly embarrassed.  

People aren't happy?  Seriously?  When did this happen?

This career path she's chosen, may not be right for her.

Look at the bright side.  We have the opportunity to fire her help her find a more suitable occupation next election.  When does her seat come up?

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by AMP

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=070821_1_A9_hPeop58735

Expo's $5 Million Dollar Kitchen

Can we see Exposerve Management Corp's Business Plan?

Holy crap!  That's not the half of it.  The fair board was not happy with the plans for the kitchen they paid Matrix $300K for, so now they've decided to pay someone else an additional $315K to come up with new plans.

Unless I'm mistaken- that's some of our tax dollars the fairboard is wasting, right?

[AMP]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by AMP

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=070821_1_A9_hPeop58735

Expo's $5 Million Dollar Kitchen

Can we see Exposerve Management Corp's Business Plan?

Holy crap!  That's not the half of it.  The fair board was not happy with the plans for the kitchen they paid Matrix $300K for, so now they've decided to pay someone else an additional $315K to come up with new plans.

Unless I'm mistaken- that's some of our tax dollars the fairboard is wasting, right?

I wonder if this new proposed "Five Million Dollar Kitchen" is Martha Stewart approved?

She should be here for the grand opening !

I have been to many venues that have national chains and world famous fast food restaurants in their food courts that seem to satisfy their patrons. They lease space to the businesses plus get a percentage of the profits.  

Majorities of people have more confidence in a name brand food source than an independent run concessionaire.  Majority of the restaurants at many of those venues have sitting areas and are run 6 days per week and many have an opening to the outside of the buildings for public use during non-event times.   Plus the majors accept credit cards.  

I believe I read where the Civic Center sells iced water mixed beverages for $3 during the Talon and Oilers games.  The Sports Team, City and Vendor split out the $3 three ways.    

Would outsourcing the food vendors at the Expo be a better choice for variety and competitive pricing?  

At one time Wal Mart attempted the Indy Fast Food deal, but now has a McDonalds inside most of their units.   I would shelve the Indy Kitchen idea and follow the Wal Mart decision.  Afterall the world's largest chain of fast-food restaurants, McDonalds, have been serving billions since 1940.  

Invest the Five Million in other improvements that will benefit the citizens of the area, and open the food service up for bid.

Follow Sam Walton's Other People's Money theory, and have those businesses invest their own money into the food service equipmentm set a minimum dollar amount and require upgrades every so many years.  Pop distributors provide fountain mix equipment and vending machines etc.  Write the specs for the bid to include what you want and rule out others.    

Is this Five Million Dollar kitchen to be run by QuikTrip?

[Gold]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Randi Miller has got to be the most polarizing figure in local politics.

There is absolutely zero need to release this.  She needs to let it go and move on.  Even if she does release it, it's not going to get her another term in office nor improve her image.

I'm surprised she hasn't planted a flak on here to try to make her look better.  I don't think I've heard a single flattering comment toward her on here in the last six months.

The word "polarize" assumes that you create two poles -- in this case, I think there is universal dislike of Randi Miller.  It's funny because John Q. Public, for the most part, really doesn't understand much of what the county government does.  You have to be doing a really poor job to be this unpopular.

I disagree with many of the local pundits on a lot of issues, but I've picked up widespread disdain for her.  Maybe the silver lining is that she unites people in this town on something for a change. []

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

As some of you know, I have low friends in high places.  I've already gotten a copy of the business plan:

[Wrinkle]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

A publicly elected official asks in a public meeting for a plan from a company that has a contract producing income for a county entity on government owned property.

It may be sensitive in nature, but that makes it open to public scrutiny in my opinion.

Release the plan. We have a right to know.

I strongly disagree. We have no right to see this business plan. Not only is it proprietary, the County executed a non-disclosure agreement to view it themselves. Even if it were public information (which it is not), the County would have no right to release it regardless.

But, I hope they do. Then, Robby can sue the heck out of her, and win. That should about cover the cost of relocation, all new rides and retirement for the entire family, along with a couple of future generations.

And you wondered what they would be doing with all their excess revenue?

[Breadburner]

I volunteer to take one for the team.....heh....

[shadows]

I believe that Bell's plan is his private property and is not subject to the FOIA until it is accepted by the fair board.  If it had been accepted and recorded in the minutes then it would become public information otherwise, it is only a proposal submitted for review to the fair board.  It was the voters that allowed this monster of unchallengeable authority to be created.

The clip on the morning TV's with the caption that the bulldozer was preparing a free parking lot for the upcoming fair on the former location of the Bell amusement park should be the question of the day.   The thought is if they only received a $1,000 a year it could be added to the fair income but the free parking lot will add nothing.

We have, as those democratic republics before us, became controlled by self-center officials where the expense of the bloated operation became too expensive to support. It is the same cycle over and over.

[Townsend]

The best part of the fair, IMO, is the people watching.  Those overweight, spandex and tube top wearing, BUPA having rednecks with dirty screaming future rednecks are interesting to see.

The worst part?  How those mentally challenged mouth breathers park.  They destroy landscaping, endanger pedestrians, and break the law.  

Maybe a free parking lot isn't such a bad thing.  I'm sorry for the loss of something that is important to so many but it's gone.  Hopefully something good will come from the new addition of pavement.  Less collateral damage to my neighborhood.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

As some of you know, I have low friends in high places.  I've already gotten a copy of the business plan: