South County (tulsa)

[dsjeffries]

I watched in shock half an hour ago as a commercial for "South County Tulsa" came on the air.

For those like myself who are/were wondering what South County Tulsa is, it appears to be a concerted effort by Bixby, Jenks and Glenpool to oust the city of Tulsa from the area completely.

On the website (http://www.southcountytulsa.com),  Tulsa is presented as merely an afterthought to the grand, immaculate communities of South County [V].  Even the name of the place has things backward... Those communities are located in South Tulsa County, not South County Tulsa.

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South County is a community that encompasses the fast-growing cities of Jenks, Bixby, and Glenpool.

Yes, South County offers a tremendous diversity of recreation, entertainment, shopping, and housing. More important, it offers a sense of community, a sense of pride, and a sense of excitement like no other place in Oklahoma.

There's no place like South County.

quote:Only minutes away from the quiet suburbs of South County lies Tulsa, home of world-class museums and theater companies, historic buildings and music venues, wonderful parks and golf courses, an international airport, movie theaters, shopping and services galore, professional sports teams, The University of Tulsa and other renowned higher-education institutions, and numerous annual community events such as International Mayfest, Oktoberfest (one of the largest in the world), the Tulsa State Fair, and The Tulsa Run...

I'm pretty sure that statement has it completely wrong.  Tulsa isn't minutes away from the suburbs--the suburbs are minutes away from Tulsa.

Though the website has some decent photography, I'm pretty disgusted at the whole notion.

I think the people behind this are about 30 or more years behind the whole idea of suburbs being the 'in' place to be.

[aoxamaxoa]

It's vision 2025 at work.....you didn't see this coming when you voted for the arena?

[dsjeffries]

quote:Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

It's vision 2025 at work.....you didn't see this coming when you voted for the arena?

Could you explain how this is Vision2025???

I'm not really making a connection.

[aoxamaxoa]

We handed the reins over to the county chieftons. They deserted us after they got their take.....

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by DScott28604

quote:Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

It's vision 2025 at work.....you didn't see this coming when you voted for the arena?

Could you explain how this is Vision2025???

I'm not really making a connection.

I think that roughly translates to "they pissed enough people off by pushing things like an arena through now watch what the rich folks do in response."

Somewhat like how Southern Hills was founded...which I heard was in several respects a protest to shenanigans going on at Tulsa Country Club.  People couldn't get the club to play ball, so to speak, so they said screw you and got Phillips to donate the land for SHCC... IOW, they moved south just for spite.

[cannon_fodder]

quote:There's no place like South County.

Except Ankeny/Johnston (Des Moines Suburbs), Park City/Kechi or Derby (Wichita), Elk Horn/La Vista/Papillion (Omaha)... shall I go on?  There are plenty of suburbs around mid sized cities that offer new McMansions in not-so-cleverly named subdivisions with strip malls between them, shiny new schools, and farm fields waiting to be converted.  

Does Jenks, Bixby or Glennpool offer anything that any of the subdivisions in KC, St. Louis, Dallas, or any other metro area Tulsa size or larger doesn't offer?  Do any of them have a unique character, architecture, or history?  Standing alone, are any of them even on the map?

No.  And that's why I chose to live as close to the heart of the city as I can.  No matter what city it is you may as well experience it as best you can.  The suburbs of Tulsa could just as well be the suburbs anywhere else in the nation.  

Not to take away from what they offer.  They are peaceful, quit, and only 10 minutes away from everything Tulsa has to offer.  They are the ideals of Anytown USA. But I don't want to live in AnyTown USA, I want to live in Tulsa.

Nice website though.

[aoxamaxoa]

CF, Please use another name than Anytown USA.   I believe when we use Anytown USA it refers to the educational program to teach young people about tolerance sponsored by the old NCCJ which is now the OCCJ.

[cannon_fodder]

Its also a movie, a camp, and about 1000 other things.  Its generic nature is what made it useful in my little soliloquy.  John Q doesn't refer to the movie, nor does John Doe necessarily refer to a dead person.  Its not my fault placeholder names have been hijacked by others who want instant branding.

Leave my vernacular alone!

[TheArtist]

They forgot something in the video with the chairs and such flying through the air, leaving Tulsa and going south.  They forgot to put Drillers Stadium sweetly, gently, flying through the air and landing in some pretty green field out there. []

I know it may not be the proper response.  But every time I see that video I cant help but fall out of my chair in laughter. lol

[Chicken Little]

That's a pretty field.  Have they plopped a subdivision on it yet?

[pmcalk]

^First, they had to get rid of all those pesky trees.  Here is a more recent picture:



I find it ironic that the images they are using to lure people out south is the very thing that will be destroyed once the subdivisions move in.  Kind of like saying:  "look what you can destroy--beautiful country side."

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

^First, they had to get rid of all those pesky trees.  Here is a more recent picture:



I find it ironic that the images they are using to lure people out south is the very thing that will be destroyed once the subdivisions move in.  Kind of like saying:  "look what you can destroy--beautiful country side."

Wind River doesn't look destroyed.  The destruction argument has always fallen short. Land leveling has to be done no matter where you build.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by DScott28604

I watched in shock half an hour ago as a commercial for "South County Tulsa" came on the air.

For those like myself who are/were wondering what South County Tulsa is, it appears to be a concerted effort by Bixby, Jenks and Glenpool to oust the city of Tulsa from the area completely.

On the website (http://www.southcountytulsa.com),  Tulsa is presented as merely an afterthought to the grand, immaculate communities of South County [V].  Even the name of the place has things backward... Those communities are located in South Tulsa County, not South County Tulsa.

quote:
South County is a community that encompasses the fast-growing cities of Jenks, Bixby, and Glenpool.

Yes, South County offers a tremendous diversity of recreation, entertainment, shopping, and housing. More important, it offers a sense of community, a sense of pride, and a sense of excitement like no other place in Oklahoma.

There's no place like South County.

quote:Only minutes away from the quiet suburbs of South County lies Tulsa, home of world-class museums and theater companies, historic buildings and music venues, wonderful parks and golf courses, an international airport, movie theaters, shopping and services galore, professional sports teams, The University of Tulsa and other renowned higher-education institutions, and numerous annual community events such as International Mayfest, Oktoberfest (one of the largest in the world), the Tulsa State Fair, and The Tulsa Run...

I'm pretty sure that statement has it completely wrong.  Tulsa isn't minutes away from the suburbs--the suburbs are minutes away from Tulsa.

Though the website has some decent photography, I'm pretty disgusted at the whole notion.

I think the people behind this are about 30 or more years behind the whole idea of suburbs being the 'in' place to be.

I'm glad it disgusts you.  I'm glad all the midtown/downtown zealots are waking up and realizing they aren't the center of the universe anymore.

[dsjeffries]

quote:Originally posted by inteller
I'm glad it disgusts you.  I'm glad all the midtown/downtown zealots are waking up and realizing they aren't the center of the universe anymore.

I would consider myself neither a midtown nor downtown zealot...  In fact, I wouldn't consider anyone on here as a zealot, a.k.a. militant.  The southern suburbs are more militant than anyone in midtown could be accused of.

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by intellerWind River doesn't look destroyed.  The destruction argument has always fallen short. Land leveling has to be done no matter where you build.

Some builders do a much better job at preserving old growth trees than others.  Your second point--that land leveling has to be done--is exactly the same as my point. People have a right to live where they want.  I just wish people would be more thoughtful about the affects of their choices.  There is land that has already been developed within the city limits where people could live.  To destroy undeveloped land--some of it prime agricultural--simply based upon this fantasy of bucolic bliss is irresponsible.  If we continue to build according to current thinking, that scenic woodsy view will be nothing but strip malls and gated houses one of these days.  Then the builders will entice homeowners further out into undeveloped land.  Its a never ending quest that is designed to keep homebuilders in business.  Don't get me wrong--I don't believe that we should stop building houses.  My question is simply are we using are land wisely? Or are we simply looking for a quick profit feeding off of people's unattainable vision of a home?