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iplaw

#30
September 05, 2007, 02:40:54 PM
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/random comments in a thread beating a dead gay horse to death in a bathroom.
FYP.  BTW, straight horses use the bathroom OUTSIDE...

okiebybirth

#31
September 05, 2007, 03:55:49 PM
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Originally posted by iplaw
Call it what you want.  Men trolling for other men in public bathrooms is a gay issue.  Straight men don't frequent bathrooms for anonymous sex with other men.  Just ask George Michael.


Saying it's a gay issue implies it is something wrong in the gay community which is totally false.  The problem lies in the straight community and the desire to label homosexuals as sick or perverted, hence you have people like Craig who gets married but tries to get their desires out in other forms.  I think Freud would have something to say about men who think gay sex is disgusting and then turn around and look for it in filthy and disgusting bathrooms.

And straight men don't frequent bathrooms for anonymous sex with other men, but given the chance they'd sure as he** frequent bathrooms, woods, parks or whatever if they could have anonymous sex with women.  It's a man issue.

iplaw

#32
September 05, 2007, 04:12:55 PM
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Saying it's a gay issue implies it is something wrong in the gay community which is totally false.
Man sex in public bathrooms isn't a problem to you?

quote:

The problem lies in the straight community and the desire to label homosexuals as sick or perverted, hence you have people like Craig who gets married but tries to get their desires out in other forms.  I think Freud would have something to say about men who think gay sex is disgusting and then turn around and look for it in filthy and disgusting bathrooms.
I think he advocated the recreational use of cocaine too.  Care to quote Freud some more?

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And straight men don't frequent bathrooms for anonymous sex with other men, but given the chance they'd sure as he** frequent bathrooms, woods, parks or whatever if they could have anonymous sex with women.  It's a man issue.
Right...it's a "man" issue.[xx(]  You got half the definition correct...

Conan71

#33
September 05, 2007, 04:54:06 PM
So let me get this straight (pun intended).

If Larry Craig were a Democrat there would be no mock horror?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

aoxamaxoa

#34
September 05, 2007, 05:01:14 PM
http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/09/senator_larry_craig_takes_a_new_stance.php

GOP to Larry Craig: Forget about a mulligan on this one, Bud. We can't handle one more anti-gay, gay Republican being exposed. It's killing us with our homophobic base. So get back into the closet, or stall, Larry, because you're toast.

aoxamaxoa

#35
September 05, 2007, 06:33:45 PM
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Originally posted by Conan71

So let me get this straight (pun intended).

If Larry Craig were a Democrat there would be no mock horror?


Bet you laugh at these!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_YzbODb9To
http://jonaderks.wordpress.com/2007/03/19/david-letterman-bill-clinton/



grahambino

#36
September 06, 2007, 11:31:07 AM
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Originally posted by Conan71

So let me get this straight (pun intended).

If Larry Craig were a Democrat there would be no mock horror?


If you don't think that the religious 'right' would've been whipped into a self-righteous furor over a story like that, you're kidding yourself.

It would be great...you could continue to bring it up 10-20 years after the fact in an attempt to deflect criticism of <insert name>'s <insert scandal>.

'...but Clinton...' sound familiar?

okiebybirth

#37
September 06, 2007, 02:28:29 PM
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Originally posted by iplaw

quote:

Saying it's a gay issue implies it is something wrong in the gay community which is totally false.
Man sex in public bathrooms isn't a problem to you?

quote:

The problem lies in the straight community and the desire to label homosexuals as sick or perverted, hence you have people like Craig who gets married but tries to get their desires out in other forms.  I think Freud would have something to say about men who think gay sex is disgusting and then turn around and look for it in filthy and disgusting bathrooms.
I think he advocated the recreational use of cocaine too.  Care to quote Freud some more?

quote:

And straight men don't frequent bathrooms for anonymous sex with other men, but given the chance they'd sure as he** frequent bathrooms, woods, parks or whatever if they could have anonymous sex with women.  It's a man issue.
Right...it's a "man" issue.[xx(]  You got half the definition correct...


You aren't addressing my points; you are obfuscating.  

You aren't catching activists in the gay community in the bathrooms but closeted Republicans.

And male teenagers perfected the art of having sex in parks, so don't put this issue solely on gay men.

And look at percentages (I've posted them on this forum before) and you'll find that the majority of men arrested in cruising areas are actually married (ala Craig).  That definitely says something about society (hint: The Religious Right is wrong).

Conan71

#38
September 06, 2007, 04:24:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by grahambino

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

So let me get this straight (pun intended).

If Larry Craig were a Democrat there would be no mock horror?


If you don't think that the religious 'right' would've been whipped into a self-righteous furor over a story like that, you're kidding yourself.

It would be great...you could continue to bring it up 10-20 years after the fact in an attempt to deflect criticism of <insert name>'s <insert scandal>.

'...but Clinton...' sound familiar?




Grahmbino, you are missing my point- the Dems love to slaughter a Rep for such indiscretions, where's the horror when it's one of their own?  I didn't say a word about the Christian Right- yeah they are self-righteous as hell.  That's a major DUH!
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

iplaw

#39
September 06, 2007, 04:31:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by okiebybirth

quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

quote:

Saying it's a gay issue implies it is something wrong in the gay community which is totally false.
Man sex in public bathrooms isn't a problem to you?

quote:

The problem lies in the straight community and the desire to label homosexuals as sick or perverted, hence you have people like Craig who gets married but tries to get their desires out in other forms.  I think Freud would have something to say about men who think gay sex is disgusting and then turn around and look for it in filthy and disgusting bathrooms.
I think he advocated the recreational use of cocaine too.  Care to quote Freud some more?

quote:

And straight men don't frequent bathrooms for anonymous sex with other men, but given the chance they'd sure as he** frequent bathrooms, woods, parks or whatever if they could have anonymous sex with women.  It's a man issue.
Right...it's a "man" issue.[xx(]  You got half the definition correct...


You aren't addressing my points; you are obfuscating.  

You aren't catching activists in the gay community in the bathrooms but closeted Republicans.

And male teenagers perfected the art of having sex in parks, so don't put this issue solely on gay men.

And look at percentages (I've posted them on this forum before) and you'll find that the majority of men arrested in cruising areas are actually married (ala Craig).  That definitely says something about society (hint: The Religious Right is wrong).
I'd love to see the statistical "numbers" on this one.  I'm guessing they're not coming from something most of us would consider to be a reasonable source.  And what is it that the Evil Religious Right is so incorrect about?

Breadburner

#40
September 06, 2007, 04:51:44 PM
Catching a gay activist engaging in sex in a bathroom is hardly news....I bet they get a medal or something......Like a small rainbow pin or the like.....
 

okiebybirth

#41
September 07, 2007, 09:36:40 PM
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Originally posted by Breadburner

Catching a gay activist engaging in sex in a bathroom is hardly news....I bet they get a medal or something......Like a small rainbow pin or the like.....


Shouldn't you be out with Fred Phelps screaming at someone's funeral about now ?

okiebybirth

#42
September 07, 2007, 09:45:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw


I'd love to see the statistical "numbers" on this one.  I'm guessing they're not coming from something most of us would consider to be a reasonable source.  And what is it that the Evil Religious Right is so incorrect about?


ST. LOUIS — Back in the 1960s, long before a U.S. senator got busted for lewd behavior in an airport bathroom, it was called "the tearoom trade."
But social researchers knew almost nothing about it.

So a young graduate student at Washington University in St. Louis started digging. He spent months hanging out in the public restrooms of St. Louis' Forest Park. He wanted to observe the tearoom trade in action: men who met for brief, anonymous homosexual trysts in public. He wanted to discover what compelled them.

Laud Humphreys' research was pioneering. It shattered stereotypes. It also cost him his job.

Humphreys discovered the majority of men visiting "tearooms" were married and generally upstanding citizens. Many did not think of themselves as gay or bisexual. In his groundbreaking 1970 Ph.D dissertation, "Tearoom Trade: Impersonal Sex in Personal Places," Humphreys detailed the trade's constant rituals: shoe-tapping and reaching under the stalls as a covert way to seek out willing partners.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/26263150D474C4EE8625734800098FDC?OpenDocument

iplaw

#43
September 10, 2007, 08:35:30 AM
I'm sorry I thought someone said something about numbers and statistics...silly me.

Breadburner

#44
September 10, 2007, 09:04:27 AM
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Originally posted by okiebybirth

quote:
Originally posted by Breadburner

Catching a gay activist engaging in sex in a bathroom is hardly news....I bet they get a medal or something......Like a small rainbow pin or the like.....


Shouldn't you be out with Fred Phelps screaming at someone's funeral about now ?


Nope....I support the troops......
 
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