Riverwalk Phase II

[Conan71]

Toby Keith's= Chili's + 30% higher prices without any improvement in quality.

[TheArtist]

I like the riverwalk and I think it will be successful, especially if they get the right mix of stuff in it. Some of those inital stores were just as bad for the development as the unfinished development was for the stores.

I think its looking like the types of stores that will do well there and attract more people in general to the development will be ones that are either destination stops in and of themselves and or have some sort of entertainment value. Your right, I would not go there to buy decorative items or clothes, however some quirky gift shops that are fun to browse through I could see doing well. A store thats fun to browse through and has impulse purchases. A bookstore like a good sized Borders with a coffee shop is also something that could do well there. I will go to a Borders, just to go to a Borders, it doesnt have to be in a mall or with a bunch of other things, but if it were in a place like the Riverwalk I would likely go to that one instead. A Borders is also the kind of place one might venture into just on a stroll or browse through before or after eating. A really interesting art gallery or two might be nice as well.

Because of the particular dynamics of the place, certain types of stores will do really well and others not well at all. Understanding that and getting the right mix can make it a smashing success or the wrong stores will hurt the whole thing and cause it to struggle. Will be interesting to see the direction it evolves towards.   

[Cats Cats Cats]

Toby Keith's= Chili's + 30% higher prices without any improvement in quality.

Wednesdays are boot up yer donkey nights..  You have to bring your own boots though.

[Stone]

We'll see what Lewis and Clark does for the area...if it ever gets built.

[Composer]

Borders would be great at Riverwalk but I think that would be too close to their 81st and Yale location.  If Borders is interested in expanding in the Tulsa area, I would look for them to go to the Broken Arrow or Owasso area. 

[Conan71]

Don't count on Borders, they are really tightening the reins trying to stay afloat.

[TurismoDreamin]

Speaking of bookstores, I would love to see a Barnes and Noble there. They are currently nowhere near Jenks so it would be a great location for them to put their hand in the market.

I think that once they get the residental portion of the Village on Main project complete, along with the Phase 2 of the Riverwalks residental plan, this area will get the foot traffic and atmosphere it needed. Throw in a rail trolley passing between the Riverwalk, Village on Main, the Aquarium and (maybe someday) the River District on the other side of the turnpike and you'd really something.

Maybe they should also consider something like the May's Drug Store at Utica Square that's open 24 hours a day.

[Nik]

Tulsa Hills restaurants suck. Buffalo Wild Wings is awful, Chili's is awful, McDonalds, Arby's (not yet built) are McDonalds and Arbys. Tulsa Hills is going to then be adding Cracker Barrel and Whataburger.

That is major suckage.

It's Tulsa Hills that's half empty, not Riverwalk. And Riverwalk has actual construction going on in the phase 2 section. Tulsa Hills has a land for sale sign.

I hadn't heard Tulsa Hills was adding a WhatABurger. I do know they are opening a SmashBurger later this month. I've talked to someone in Denver and they said the place is really good. So, I'm looking forward to that opening.

[sgrizzle]

Tulsa Hills restaurants suck. Buffalo Wild Wings is awful, Chili's is awful, McDonalds, Arby's (not yet built) are McDonalds and Arbys. Tulsa Hills is going to then be adding Cracker Barrel and Whataburger.

That is major suckage.

It's Tulsa Hills that's half empty, not Riverwalk. And Riverwalk has actual construction going on in the phase 2 section. Tulsa Hills has a land for sale sign.

Tulsa Hills has two open businesses in Phase 2 and Phase 1 isn't even complete yet. Keep in mind Tulsa Hills started what, like 4 years after RWC?

I'd lay down money Tulsa Hills is pulling in at least twice the headcount without a single bar, theater, arcade or any other form of entertainment.

[Cats Cats Cats]

As of right now there should be 0 equivalence of the Riverwalk and Tulsa Hills.  They are totally different, the only similarity is that they sell something.  If the Riverwalk is trying to be Tulsa Hills they are failing horribly.

[Composer]

Tulsa Hills should not be compared to Riverwalk.  One is Boutique type shops, another is Big-Box stores.  I bet the average person might go to Target/Belk in the afternoon for some shopping and then Riverwalk in the evening for dinner and drinks.

[Conan71]

Tulsa Hills should not be compared to Riverwalk.  One is Boutique type shops, another is Big-Box stores.  I bet the average person might go to Target/Belk in the afternoon for some shopping and then Riverwalk in the evening for dinner and drinks.

Or the average degenerate would start at Riverwalk about 2pm and go stagger around through Target or Lowe's later that evening. 

[TURobY]

Or the average degenerate would start at Riverwalk about 2pm and go stagger around through Target or Lowe's later that evening. 

Instead of a pub crawl, it's a big box crawl? 

[swake]

As I was driving by Riverwalk this morning I noticed something kind of odd.

Actual buildings going up in phase 2.

There must be a swine flew alert in Tulsa this morning.

[BKDotCom]

RiverWalk Crossing owner sues investor

unclear how this affects progress