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Question Mr. Kerry... ZZZZaaaaapppp

Started by cannon_fodder, September 18, 2007, 10:31:25 AM

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tulsacyclist

I'm not an expert and not a LEO but is it unreasonable to think that 4-6 cops should have been able to carry him out (all the way, not just to the back) of the auditorium, take him down to the ground and then cuff him? Seems like 4-6 trained officers should have been able to do that without having to taser him.

If they made a mistake that is fine, I make small mistakes often in my job. I'd hate to make one that could cause someone their life though. Maybe it's just a training issue with the officers? If they are that inefficient with a non-violent offender that apparently has no intent to 'harm' anyone - I'd hate to see how they'd efficiently deescalate or end a more serious situation.
 

tim huntzinger

Municipalities and or lar enforcement just do not want to be embarassed by their locals in front of bigwigs.  Certain local bloggers would have been arrested for their outbursts at certain RiverTax forums if the politician had been Cheney, for instance.

Conan71

"DON'T TAZE ME BRO!!!!" BZZZZT.... AAAGHH!!!

I'm going to take some heat for this, but I have gotten far too much enjoyment out of that.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

MH2010

quote:
Originally posted by tulsacyclist

I'm not an expert and not a LEO but is it unreasonable to think that 4-6 cops should have been able to carry him out (all the way, not just to the back) of the auditorium, take him down to the ground and then cuff him? Seems like 4-6 trained officers should have been able to do that without having to taser him.

If they made a mistake that is fine, I make small mistakes often in my job. I'd hate to make one that could cause someone their life though. Maybe it's just a training issue with the officers? If they are that inefficient with a non-violent offender that apparently has no intent to 'harm' anyone - I'd hate to see how they'd efficiently deescalate or end a more serious situation.



4 to 6 officers could have done it without the taser but he could have been truly injured (i.e. broken bones, shoulder/arm dislocation, wrist injury, knot on head, broken nose ect.)

tim huntzinger

Besides, he is a tall fellow, and they had one cuff on him when he really started swinging about - at that point he was armed.

USRufnex

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

"DON'T TAZE ME BRO!!!!" BZZZZT.... AAAGHH!!!

I'm going to take some heat for this, but I have gotten far too much enjoyment out of that.



I should have some sort of sympathy for the guy but he clearly was there to "start something."  Problem is, someone like John Kerry gets his share of protesters, heckers and death threats.  You never know what that person was going to do in a crowded room....

And by the time we got to that point in the video, I could not help but translate "DON'T TAZE ME, DON'T TAZE ME, BRO..."   into,  "...don't... stop... don't stop, don't stop..."

Methinks the lady protested too much.


Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by USRufnex

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

"DON'T TAZE ME BRO!!!!" BZZZZT.... AAAGHH!!!

I'm going to take some heat for this, but I have gotten far too much enjoyment out of that.



I should have some sort of sympathy for the guy but he clearly was there to "start something."  Problem is, someone like John Kerry gets his share of protesters, heckers and death threats.  You never know what that person was going to do in a crowded room....

And by the time we got to that point in the video, I could not help but translate "DON'T TAZE ME, DON'T TAZE ME, BRO..."   into,  "...don't... stop... don't stop, don't stop..."

Methinks the lady protested too much.





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"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Breadburner

He F.W.T.P. and recieved what he deserved..It's real simple for him if he does what he is asked....He elevated the situation.....It's a shame how some of the media is not relating the whole story but thats par for the course....
 

tulsacyclist

quote:
Originally posted by MH2010

4 to 6 officers could have done it without the taser but he could have been truly injured (i.e. broken bones, shoulder/arm dislocation, wrist injury, knot on head, broken nose ect.)


That makes sense, thanks for the reply.
 

Lister

I think he got what he deserved, after looking at the video a few times. He was obviously there to start trouble, and when the cops start leading you out, you DON'T scuffle with them.

NellieBly


Conan71

He unwittingly created a cottage industry overnight.  No less than five different designs out there now.  He ought to trademark it before it's too late:

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

MH2010

quote:
Originally posted by NellieBly

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/5150740.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wkmg/20070919/lo_wkmg/14147512

I think these cops should probably be tasered.
The use of tasers is a little out of control, in my opinion.



They have to be tasered to carry one.

patric

quote:
the taser doesn't hurt anymore after the "ride".


Unless you are one of the percentage who's heart goes into fibrillation from the shock (and you die) or the officer is a sadist who doesnt know when to stop...

http://www.winknews.com/news/weird/9906352.html
A police officer is on paid leave after dash-cam video shows him using a taser over and over again on a woman even after she's handcuffed.

The video is disturbing and it has Warren City officials in an uproar. It shows a woman being tasered numerous times by Warren police officer Rich Kovach.  The video shows the woman distraught and pleading for him to stop but Kovach can be heard screaming at her.

Finally, other officers arrive at the scene and Kovach removes the woman from his car. But as she is walking out of the frame, she is tasered again.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by patric

quote:
the taser doesn't hurt anymore after the "ride".


Unless you are one of the percentage who's heart goes into fibrillation from the shock (and you die) or the officer is a sadist who doesnt know when to stop...

http://www.winknews.com/news/weird/9906352.html
A police officer is on paid leave after dash-cam video shows him using a taser over and over again on a woman even after she's handcuffed.

The video is disturbing and it has Warren City officials in an uproar. It shows a woman being tasered numerous times by Warren police officer Rich Kovach.  The video shows the woman distraught and pleading for him to stop but Kovach can be heard screaming at her.

Finally, other officers arrive at the scene and Kovach removes the woman from his car. But as she is walking out of the frame, she is tasered again.




The officer just had to get in one more BZZZZZZZZZT, eh?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan