Why are Church Leaders silent on the River Tax?

[RecycleMichael]

What turned you into a rabid Bear?

Please stop trying to define our group and lie about our motives and work. We have been picking up signs unrelated to elections. We don't work after midnight.

After all of this bravado, I am ready to call B.S.

I don't think you have had any signs stolen and are just making this up because of some persecution complex.

Do you even live in Tulsa?

Are you even really a Bear?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by swake

Most of the signs I see that are "no" are in rights of way, most of the "yes" signs are in yards.  

And this yard stealing complaint makes no sense, why would someone from the yes campaign steal the signs out of yards and leave the ones all over town in the rights of way, where people actually see them?

Stealing a sign from someone's yard is a indication of anger and/or desperation. And all the anger and emotion on this issue that I have seen is on the "no" side of the fence.



I think some people may be fibbing....

Well, the Vote Yes campaign does not need to use it workers to pick up Vote NO signs along the major thoroughfares.  

Reason being, RecycleMichael's volunteer organization does it for them on weekends, and the Publik Werkes department vacumns Vote NO signs Monday - Friday, although I expect Charles Hardt will approve their Overtime on the weekend before the Oct. 9 election, in a last-minute push to silence the Vote NO message.

Regarding the Vote Yes signs you see in residential yards, do you think some of those may be there if Kaiser's bank is forcing its Tulsa County residents to again have a Vote YES sign involuntarily placed in their yards, just like the bank required during the Vision 2025 campaign?

Furnishing each employees address to the Citizens for Tulsa County.  

Remember, that famous "Employee be getting a Vote Yes yard sign unless Employee hits the "Opt-Out" Intranet button."  I'll bet that was a LITTLE used Opt-Out Option?

Hmmmmmh??

Maybe BOKWerker can join in again, to clarify.

He/she should be on lunch break, now.

[cannon_fodder]

Someone place a "Vote for Kathy Taylor" sign in my yard during the last election.  I wasn't sure I wanted to vote for her... so I took it out.  I imagine most BOk workers are intelligent enough to figure out that course of action too.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Are you even reading the posts, specifically:

quote:Just to clarify RM... when you say "never picked up signs our of a person's yard" do you mean out of any portion of what would commonly be referred to as a yard or specifically "non-easement" part of the yard?

If I had a sign 5 feet from the curb and my easement runs in 12, I would have a real problem with someone entering my property to remove that sign. No matter what it said.

to which RM replied:

quote:Our group does not go into residential yards to remove signs. We are completely a volunteer group who gets together and cleans commercial corridors.

NO matter what you try to do, that's pretty clear.  Furthermore, the cities easement or right of way unto my property is still commonly referred to as my yard.  Their use of it is limited - they can not store whatever they want there as long as they desire (only certain circumstances).

That's clear.

One more time:

quote:Just to clarify RM... when you say "never picked up signs our of a person's yard" do you mean out of any portion of what would commonly be referred to as a yard or specifically "non-easement" part of the yard?

If I had a sign 5 feet from the curb and my easement runs in 12, I would have a real problem with someone entering my property to remove that sign. No matter what it said.

to which RM replied:

Our group does not go into residential yards to remove signs. We are completely a volunteer group who gets together and cleans commercial corridors.

So either RM is lying or he is not, certainly he is being clear.

Still waiting for your invite to replace your sign.

You can drop off my replacement NO RIVER TAX sign at the following address:

2121 South Columbia, Suite 103
Tulsa OK

Recycle certainly says he does not go into residential yards to vacumn Vote NO signs.

Recycle certainly says he does go into City Right of Way to vacumn Vote NO signs.

Both may be true statements.

When the residential signs are being vacumned off the homeowners property, the sign is being taken from the Right-of-Way........

 

[bokworker]

Ok, since I am OMLB (on my lunch break)... FB, I already clarified in another thread the change in strategy on the part of my employer as to the OPTION of being able to attain a sign to place in ones yard. And I thanked you personally for the fact that it had to have been your input that changed the minds of those that make these kinds of decisions for not placing the burden of that dreaded "opt-out" decision on us.
Nobody on this forum parses words the way you do... I find you to be more of a Paper Tiger than a Friendly Bear..

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by bokworker

Ok, since I am OMLB (on my lunch break)... FB, I already clarified in another thread the change in strategy on the part of my employer as to the OPTION of being able to attain a sign to place in ones yard. And I thanked you personally for the fact that it had to have been your input that changed the minds of those that make these kinds of decisions for not placing the burden of that dreaded "opt-out" decision on us.
Nobody on this forum parses words the way you do... I find you to be more of a Paper Tiger than a Friendly Bear..

Oh yes, I remember now, we did cover this at length in a earlier Topic.  

My comment as I recall when you finally, belatedly, and wholly clarified to Oil Capital's laser-like query about the INVOLUNTARY nature of the Vote YES Vision 2025 sign placement in bank employee yards, was:

And the Truth Shall Set You Free.

[bokworker]

Except for that pesky would/could definitional thing about the yard sign....You know, a sign "could" be placed in your yard (which is the way it read) vs. a sign "would" be placed in your yard.... d*mn word parsing.

[cannon_fodder]

Why would I want to drop off a Vote No sign at Vote Yes campaign HQ?

I thought I made a reasonable offer.  I withdraw it as apparently the loss of the sign is not your real concern.  Assuming you lost a sign, or that you are in Tulsa for that matter.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

What turned you into a rabid Bear?

Please stop trying to define our group and lie about our motives and work. We have been picking up signs unrelated to elections. We don't work after midnight.

After all of this bravado, I am ready to call B.S.

I don't think you have had any signs stolen and are just making this up because of some persecution complex.

Do you even live in Tulsa?

Are you even really a Bear?

No, I would never try to define what the earnest volunteers may be thinking they are doing to beautify Tulsa.  However, I do freely opine when I see they are being used for an ulterior objective, like Mr. Martinet's interest in sign enforcement and that hallowed city ordinance against "signs" on the City Right of Way.  Including what people just think are their residential yards.  

Vacumning Vote NO signs during tax election periods serves the interests of the local Tax Vampires just fine.  

And, at this juncture, based on your reactions, I expect you are not merely their dupe.

ANd, it's NOT stolen SIGNS.  ONE sign stolen so far out of my front yard.  Mr. Busby's the guy with TWO signs:  Vote YES signs.  

Yes, I do reside in the Banana Republic of Tulsa.

Yes, I am a Friendly Bear.

[cannon_fodder]

One favor and I'll leave this topic...

Please use this as your avatar.


Awesomeness.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by bokworker

Except for that pesky would/could definitional thing about the yard sign....You know, a sign "could" be placed in your yard (which is the way it read) vs. a sign "would" be placed in your yard.... d*mn word parsing.

Thought that after Oil Capital flaying, you'd be the one to avoid word parsing on this subject.

The fact, to educate those unenlighted to this previous topic and to help them understand how things work in the Banana Republic of Tulsa, your bank executive management the during Vision 2025 campaign, informed employees:

--That the bank supported Vision 2025;  CORRECT?

--That a Vote Yes sign WOULD be placed in the Employees yard for those residing in Tulsa County; CORRECT? and,

--That if an employee did NOT want a Vote YES sign placed in their yard, they could click an OPT-OUT button.  CORRECT?

Uh-huh, just click that OPT-OUT button right after being told that executive management supported the new Tax.  CORRECT?

I HOPE that clarifies things.

[:O]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by swake

Most of the signs I see that are "no" are in rights of way, most of the "yes" signs are in yards.  

And this yard stealing complaint makes no sense, why would someone from the yes campaign steal the signs out of yards and leave the ones all over town in the rights of way, where people actually see them?

Stealing a sign from someone's yard is a indication of anger and/or desperation. And all the anger and emotion on this issue that I have seen is on the "no" side of the fence.



I think some people may be fibbing....

I'm sure there are upset people on both sides of this issue.

The GREEDY ones, however, are on the VOTE YES side.  

Someone NEEDS TO FEED THEIR GREED.

[:X]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Why would I want to drop off a Vote No sign at Vote Yes campaign HQ?

I thought I made a reasonable offer.  I withdraw it as apparently the loss of the sign is not your real concern.  Assuming you lost a sign, or that you are in Tulsa for that matter.

I can arrange for another.

I'm voting absentee from Ramadi this year.

Now, just taking a smoke break from cleaning the M249.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

One favor and I'll leave this topic...

Please use this as your avatar.


Awesomeness.

I REALLY like the teddy bear. Unfortunately, it wasn't an offered Avatar when I enrolled in this Forum.

My current avatar has that, 'Je ne sais quoi',:

BRANDING.

[Vision 2025]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by bokworker

Except for that pesky would/could definitional thing about the yard sign....You know, a sign "could" be placed in your yard (which is the way it read) vs. a sign "would" be placed in your yard.... d*mn word parsing.

Thought that after Oil Capital flaying, you'd be the one to avoid word parsing on this subject.

The fact, to educate those unenlighted to this previous topic and to help them understand how things work in the Banana Republic of Tulsa, your bank executive management the during Vision 2025 campaign, informed employees:

--That the bank supported Vision 2025;  CORRECT?

--That a Vote Yes sign WOULD be placed in the Employees yard for those residing in Tulsa County; CORRECT? and,

--That if an employee did NOT want a Vote YES sign placed in their yard, they could click an OPT-OUT button.  CORRECT?

Uh-huh, just click that OPT-OUT button right after being told that executive management supported the new Tax.  CORRECT?

I HOPE that clarifies things.

[:O]

It clarifies that you seem obsessed with living in the past.