Naming Rights to the Arkansas River?

[waterboy]

Huh. No wonder I love Salmon. Especially with a good Shiraz.

[Breadburner]

I figure they are not, with all the Prozac going down the drain......

[shadows]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

Are the fish in the river depressed.....

No! But most died in 1933-34 because all they had to drink was the sewerage we dumped into the water.

[cannon_fodder]

Sewerage: The entire system of sewage collection, treatment, and disposal.

The fish drank our system of pipes and our waste water treatment plant? Those jerks.  No wonder some people think the river stinks.

quote:HT said
Errrrr, sorry I didn't like Pergo.

And who said anything about Pergo?  I don't recall who liked/did not like Pergo or wanted me to get actual hardwoods, but I certainly am not holding anyones opinion on that matter against them.  I was just seeking help and am thankful to all who offered it.

[shadows]

I am unaware that the sewer water from the lawns and streets are treated before they empty into the River.  It is my belief that only sanitary sewers are treated.   The DEQ is making rules that they will try to force the city to treat all water runoff,  I assume that your are aware they have a person working in Tulsa out of  the OC office presently.   We gonna have a lot of water to store shortly, to dump in the river a little at a time.(flowing river and pet sewerage)  We can call it street washing water..

[TheArtist]

I am suprised someone didnt jump on the little suggestion in a TW article that mentioned thinking about the possibility of naming rights for streets as an additional way to help pay for some of them.

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by shadows

I am unaware that the sewer water from the lawns and streets are treated before they empty into the River.  It is my belief that only sanitary sewers are treated.   The DEQ is making rules that they will try to force the city to treat all water runoff,  I assume that your are aware they have a person working in Tulsa out of  the OC office presently.   We gonna have a lot of water to store shortly, to dump in the river a little at a time.(flowing river and pet sewerage)  We can call it street washing water..

They are called storm sewers and they drain rain water runoff. Your implication is that homeowners fertilized lawns and dog poop have polluted the river. The facts don't back that up.

In the 90's the health dept. studied the water above the 11th street bridge and around the 15th and 21st street storm sewers. The upper water was fine. No high concentrations of fertilizer. The storm sewer areas though, had a high content of animal feces. Specifically, GOOSE POOP! I know that to be true as I have been in one of those huge storm sewers and seen where the geese hide and dump. Long story, don't ask...

So we can make people clean up after their dogs, we can work on changing their landscape habits but what do we do about the Geese, Shadows? Just stop all development because Geese might poop around the water?

I love the story of a Canadian town that had a problem with dog poop on curbs and city easements. After pleading, encouraging and even ticketing folks for not cleaning up, they gave up and tried something novel. They bought large amounts of peanut butter and hired one employee to do nothing but walk around the town smearing the peanut butter on the fresh dog poop. When the horrified dog owners observed their dogs eating each others droppings, the problem solved itself. []

[shadows]

Is there some connections with the health department and the chicken farmers around the lake we take our water from?

Last I heard the chicken poop and goose poop contaminated the water and when the lime deposits were included, our water in the blue pictured Arkansas would test better.  

Why is the city so upset with the lake water when we have a more concentration of the animal poop in the local basin of the Arkansas and  it test safe?

Moral of the story is feed those chickens peanuts and we  will have clean water and they will regenerate their poop.

Has anyone thought of leaving the river like nature created it for and not trying to duplicate the downtown mall again?    

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by shadows

Is there some connections with the health department and the chicken farmers around the lake we take our water from?

Last I heard the chicken poop and goose poop contaminated the water and when the lime deposits were included, our water in the blue pictured Arkansas would test better.  

Why is the city so upset with the lake water when we have a more concentration of the animal poop in the local basin of the Arkansas and  it test safe?

Moral of the story is feed those chickens peanuts and we  will have clean water and they will regenerate their poop.

Has anyone thought of leaving the river like nature created it for and not trying to duplicate the downtown mall again?    

If the city is upset, its because we drink that water. If the Arkansas tests better, we should drink it. Do chickens eat peanuts?

Nature did not create the Keystone Dam and the levee system. If you want the river natural they'll both have to go along with a 300 yard swath of buildings 42 miles long. Wonder what that will cost...

[cannon_fodder]

lol, this is getting awesome.

Feed chickens peanuts, and their litter will not longer be full of ammonia, phosphorus,  and nitrates.  Who knew?  Certainly not the chicken farmers nor the State of Arkansas or Oklahoma or the multi hundreds of millions of dollars tied up in a lawsuit could be averted.

and for the record, the drinking water in Tulsa has always tested well (no pun intended).

[shadows]

CF quoted:
and for the record, the drinking water in Tulsa has always tested well (no pun intended
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From experience the water could not be used on  AC towers because of the lime deposits would form on the interior of the condenser tubes .  In past test the content of such deposits lacked one point in ten as being unusable for human consumption,  Millions of dollars were spent on charcoal filtering of the water by the Utility Board.  

This included tubes in steam boilers also.

Chickens love peanuts

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by shadows

CF quoted:
and for the record, the drinking water in Tulsa has always tested well (no pun intended
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From experience the water could not be used on  AC towers because of the lime deposits would form on the interior of the condenser tubes .  In past test the content of such deposits lacked one point in ten as being unusable for human consumption,  Millions of dollars were spent on charcoal filtering of the water by the Utility Board.  

This included tubes in steam boilers also.

Chickens love peanuts

Have you travelled much? Other than Europe in WWII?

The water in Norman was so hard, you could hardly rinse the soap off your body. Water softeners were necessary. Undoubtedly they have to clean their chillers too. Every community has a distinctive character to their water that makes it objectionable to some...but not dangerous.

"one point off" is a meaningless number unless you show the relevance on a scale. Norman may be 1/4 point off and still be safe. Show me a list of other cities, bottled waters, well waters and how they rank and we can pay attention to you.