Are the Murphy's paying off everyone?

[sgrizzle]

Accident #3 in a week involving children:
http://www.kjrh.com/content/news/breaking/story.aspx?content_id=3d0c99d4-6c37-4f68-9a77-8a1be0b6831e

How many accidents did Bell's have in the last 5 years? 1? 2?

Where is the outrage? Why is the cheapskate allowed to poorly operate ancient equipment on a no-bid contract at the cost of our public safety?

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Accident #3 in a week involving children:
http://www.kjrh.com/content/news/breaking/story.aspx?content_id=3d0c99d4-6c37-4f68-9a77-8a1be0b6831e

How many accidents did Bell's have in the last 5 years? 1? 2?

Where is the outrage? Why is the cheapskate allowed to poorly operate ancient equipment on a no-bid contract at the cost of our public safety?

Place a call to the residence of a one Mister Robert Dick.....

Ask him.... he or "Big Bob" may have a clue.

I'm still trying to get over the fact that the "Wanamaker Gun Show" is not required to turn in a copy of their sales at the Fair Grounds.....

"We have never had a reason to do so" "They have always told us what amounts their sales are."  Tulsa County Commissioners during the Fair Annexation Hearings before the Council 2007.

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Accident #3 in a week involving children:
http://www.kjrh.com/content/news/breaking/story.aspx?content_id=3d0c99d4-6c37-4f68-9a77-8a1be0b6831e

How many accidents did Bell's have in the last 5 years? 1? 2?

Where is the outrage? Why is the cheapskate allowed to poorly operate ancient equipment on a no-bid contract at the cost of our public safety?

Yup...Its a bad deal....I thought it strange our inspectors went out of state to inspect Murphy rides before they got here.....Add the Bigsplash accident to the list and he looks even worse...Just a matter of time before Murphy kills some kids.....I hope current and former County Commisioners are happy.....

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Accident #3 in a week involving children:
http://www.kjrh.com/content/news/breaking/story.aspx?content_id=3d0c99d4-6c37-4f68-9a77-8a1be0b6831e

How many accidents did Bell's have in the last 5 years? 1? 2?

Where is the outrage? Why is the cheapskate allowed to poorly operate ancient equipment on a no-bid contract at the cost of our public safety?

I can presume that you were outraged over this incident at Bell's ten years ago:
http://www.rideaccidents.com/bells1.txt

Bring back Bell's!

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Accident #3 in a week involving children:
http://www.kjrh.com/content/news/breaking/story.aspx?content_id=3d0c99d4-6c37-4f68-9a77-8a1be0b6831e

How many accidents did Bell's have in the last 5 years? 1? 2?

Where is the outrage? Why is the cheapskate allowed to poorly operate ancient equipment on a no-bid contract at the cost of our public safety?

I can presume that you were outraged over this incident at Bell's ten years ago:
http://www.rideaccidents.com/bells1.txt

Bring back Bell's!

Yes, but one accident in 10 years is spotless compared to 3 in a week. 2 of the accidents have been on a wildcat-style coaster.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Accident #3 in a week involving children:
http://www.kjrh.com/content/news/breaking/story.aspx?content_id=3d0c99d4-6c37-4f68-9a77-8a1be0b6831e

How many accidents did Bell's have in the last 5 years? 1? 2?

Where is the outrage? Why is the cheapskate allowed to poorly operate ancient equipment on a no-bid contract at the cost of our public safety?

I can presume that you were outraged over this incident at Bell's ten years ago:
http://www.rideaccidents.com/bells1.txt

Bring back Bell's!

Yes, but one accident in 10 years is spotless compared to 3 in a week. 2 of the accidents have been on a wildcat-style coaster.

Yeah, 1 dead 10 years ago at Bell's versus 3 injuries at Murphy's this year means nothing. Incidentally, what is your point with this thread (other than your unsubstantiated payoff opinion)? Is it that had Bell's been open the injuries at the state fair would never occurred? Or is it that Bell's never did things on the cheap? If it's the latter, I would really enjoy hearing you defend that position.

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Accident #3 in a week involving children:
http://www.kjrh.com/content/news/breaking/story.aspx?content_id=3d0c99d4-6c37-4f68-9a77-8a1be0b6831e

How many accidents did Bell's have in the last 5 years? 1? 2?

Where is the outrage? Why is the cheapskate allowed to poorly operate ancient equipment on a no-bid contract at the cost of our public safety?

I can presume that you were outraged over this incident at Bell's ten years ago:
http://www.rideaccidents.com/bells1.txt

Bring back Bell's!

Yes, but one accident in 10 years is spotless compared to 3 in a week. 2 of the accidents have been on a wildcat-style coaster.

Yeah, 1 dead 10 years ago at Bell's versus 3 injuries at Murphy's this year means nothing. Incidentally, what is your point with this thread (other than your unsubstantiated payoff opinion)? Is it that had Bell's been open the injuries at the state fair would never occurred? Or is it that Bell's never did things on the cheap? If it's the latter, I would really enjoy hearing you defend that position.

Are you related to the Murphy's.....Or do you have a bone to pick with Robby Bell.....Murphy's track record is pretty poor as of late.....Do you recall the accident at Big Splash this summer.....

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by guido911


Yeah, 1 dead 10 years ago at Bell's versus 3 injuries at Murphy's this year means nothing. Incidentally, what is your point with this thread (other than your unsubstantiated payoff opinion)? Is it that had Bell's been open the injuries at the state fair would never occurred? Or is it that Bell's never did things on the cheap? If it's the latter, I would really enjoy hearing you defend that position.

3 accidents, 11 injuries. The payoff is in relation to the fact the murphy's gave thousands to 2 of the three county commisioner's "election campaigns," one of which was a contribution made AFTER he was elected. Not to mention injuries at big splash.

If you spread this out to a full bells operating season, it would be the same as if Bells had like 300 injuries a year instead of 1 in 10 years. Bells may have done things cheaply, but their safety recoird is a hell of a lot better than Murphy's who is just as cheap if not cheaper.

[Breadburner]

And another question...How exactly do those injuries "Mean Nothing"......Are you TPD..?

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by Rico

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Accident #3 in a week involving children:
http://www.kjrh.com/content/news/breaking/story.aspx?content_id=3d0c99d4-6c37-4f68-9a77-8a1be0b6831e

How many accidents did Bell's have in the last 5 years? 1? 2?

Where is the outrage? Why is the cheapskate allowed to poorly operate ancient equipment on a no-bid contract at the cost of our public safety?

Place a call to the residence of a one Mister Robert Dick.....

Ask him.... he or "Big Bob" may have a clue.

I'm still trying to get over the fact that the "Wanamaker Gun Show" is not required to turn in a copy of their sales at the Fair Grounds.....

"We have never had a reason to do so" "They have always told us what amounts their sales are."  Tulsa County Commissioners during the Fair Annexation Hearings before the Council 2007.

Don't forget Randi "Brain Candy" Miller.

[Shadow6]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner
Yup...Its a bad deal....I thought it strange our inspectors went out of state to inspect Murphy rides before they got here.....Add the Bigsplash accident to the list and he looks even worse...Just a matter of time before Murphy kills some kids.....I hope current and former County Commisioners are happy.....

I thought it was a good idea fro the state boys to do the inspections...until I learned that Murphy Brothers flew them out there, and gave them a hundred bucks spending money a day.
 
After the first run of accidents, I saw an inspector on the TV basically saying "these things happen", and that made me wonder about these public servants.

[Shadow6]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Accident #3 in a week involving children:
http://www.kjrh.com/content/news/breaking/story.aspx?content_id=3d0c99d4-6c37-4f68-9a77-8a1be0b6831e

How many accidents did Bell's have in the last 5 years? 1? 2?

Where is the outrage? Why is the cheapskate allowed to poorly operate ancient equipment on a no-bid contract at the cost of our public safety?

I can presume that you were outraged over this incident at Bell's ten years ago:
http://www.rideaccidents.com/bells1.txt

Bring back Bell's!

Yes, but one accident in 10 years is spotless compared to 3 in a week. 2 of the accidents have been on a wildcat-style coaster.

Yeah, 1 dead 10 years ago at Bell's versus 3 injuries at Murphy's this year means nothing. Incidentally, what is your point with this thread (other than your unsubstantiated payoff opinion)? Is it that had Bell's been open the injuries at the state fair would never occurred? Or is it that Bell's never did things on the cheap? If it's the latter, I would really enjoy hearing you defend that position.

I'm really getting bored with people who shout, "Eh, but what about Bells?" every time there is an incident at the Midway rides or at Murphy's Big Splash.  

For the record:

A six year old girl drowned at Big Splash in 1986, and an 8 year old girl drowned at Big Splash in 1998:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=980530_Ne_a14girld

a five year old almost drowned in 1997:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=970831_Ne_a19woman

...and A two year old girl nearly drowned at Big Splash in 2002,

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=010803_Ne_a19pare

but there has been no hue and cry to turn Big Splash into a parking lot.



As an interesting aside, the family was represented in the Bell's case  by Clark Brewster.  I wonder if Mr. Brewster would be willing to represent the kids who were hurt at the fair recently?


http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=050717_Ne_A13_Parks50371
..and the Murphy Brother and Big Splash insurance mess was not a problem?


Please.  Bell's is gone.  Murphy Brothers is in charge of midway rides RIGHT NOW, and people are getting hurt.

[guido911]

No Shadows, what is really boring is the continued lamenting of the absence of Bell's amusement park.

Incidentally, did you miss the point I was making in responding to this thread? Whether Bell's was there or not would not have prevented those accidents and injuries at the fair from occurring. My feeling was that Sgrizzle was shamelessly using these injuries to children as a springboard to sound off about his feelings about the whole Bell's debacle.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

No Shadows, what is really boring is the continued lamenting of the absence of Bell's amusement park.

Incidentally, did you miss the point I was making in responding to this thread? Whether Bell's was there or not would not have prevented those accidents and injuries at the fair from occurring. My feeling was that Sgrizzle was shamelessly using these injuries to children as a springboard to sound off about his feelings about the whole Bell's debacle.

Your feelings were incorrect. I never liked the no bid contract or the fact that 2/3rds of the county commissioners took campaign contributions from the sole bidder. Nor the fact Big Splash and the midway have been poorly maintained and generally crap for years upon years. Everyone liked to talk about how "horrible" bells was but  there are big problems on the island with or without them.

If there is no bell's then the county needs to open for bid and try to get someone willing to bring in real rides and high-school educated staff.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by guido911

No Shadows, what is really boring is the continued lamenting of the absence of Bell's amusement park.

Incidentally, did you miss the point I was making in responding to this thread? Whether Bell's was there or not would not have prevented those accidents and injuries at the fair from occurring. My feeling was that Sgrizzle was shamelessly using these injuries to children as a springboard to sound off about his feelings about the whole Bell's debacle.

Your feelings were incorrect. I never liked the no bid contract or the fact that 2/3rds of the county commissioners took campaign contributions from the sole bidder. Nor the fact Big Splash and the midway have been poorly maintained and generally crap for years upon years. Everyone liked to talk about how "horrible" bells was but  there are big problems on the island with or without them.

If there is no bell's then the county needs to open for bid and try to get someone willing to bring in real rides and high-school educated staff.

Fair enough.