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Started by sgrizzle, October 14, 2007, 02:36:16 PM

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TheArtist

Had a friend take a date to Tuccis last week. Said it was not that good, expensive and the wait staff were stuck up and snobby. When I had eaten there last year, I wasnt at all impressed either.
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Breadburner

I disagree with the Tucci's statement....Although the waiter I had over the weekend was a bit snobbish and short but the food was great.....
 

Conan71

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Originally posted by perspicuity85

Reminds me of what happened with St. Michael's Alley.  St. Mike's used to be one of my favorite restaurants, and now the new management is running it into the ground.  I was there about a month and a half ago, and the food tasted nothing like what it had been before.

I hate it when great local restaurants get taken over by new unqualified management.



Which incarnation of St. Mike's are you talking about?  Is Mike Lovell no longer owning/running it?
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tulsascoot

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Originally posted by Conan71

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Originally posted by perspicuity85

Reminds me of what happened with St. Michael's Alley.  St. Mike's used to be one of my favorite restaurants, and now the new management is running it into the ground.  I was there about a month and a half ago, and the food tasted nothing like what it had been before.

I hate it when great local restaurants get taken over by new unqualified management.



Which incarnation of St. Mike's are you talking about?  Is Mike Lovell no longer owning/running it?



I've known the owner of St. Mikes for 7-8 years, and his name isn't Mike, it's Jeff. He had it for about 10 years total. Do you get out much?

He recently sold it to some kids who had no business running a restaurant, and it is now closed.
 

perspicuity85

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Originally posted by Breadburner

I disagree with the Tucci's statement....Although the waiter I had over the weekend was a bit snobbish and short but the food was great.....



I have always had great service at Tucci's and the food has always been exceptional.  I would say it's definitely in Tulsa's top 10 for date restaurants.

Conan71

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Originally posted by tulsascoot

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Originally posted by Conan71

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Originally posted by perspicuity85

Reminds me of what happened with St. Michael's Alley.  St. Mike's used to be one of my favorite restaurants, and now the new management is running it into the ground.  I was there about a month and a half ago, and the food tasted nothing like what it had been before.

I hate it when great local restaurants get taken over by new unqualified management.



Which incarnation of St. Mike's are you talking about?  Is Mike Lovell no longer owning/running it?



I've known the owner of St. Mikes for 7-8 years, and his name isn't Mike, it's Jeff. He had it for about 10 years total. Do you get out much?

He recently sold it to some kids who had no business running a restaurant, and it is now closed.



The "original" St. Michael's Alley was open back in the '70's.

I knew Mike Lovell from Pablo's back in the mid- '80's.  He re-opened it, and I assumed still was running the place.  It's one of those out-of-the-way places that I would eat at about once a year and not think of it again for awhile.

I never bothered to keep up w/ whether or not he still owned the joint.
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buckeye

I haven't eaten at the 15th street location since a couple years before the name change.  Barely adequate service and half-decent food for too much money, no thanks.  It certainly doesn't help to change your name to some corny, half-assed quasi-Jazz reference, good grief.  Jazmo's...reminds me of drunk far-eastern karaoke singers trying to belt out 80s power ballads.  They just don't quite get it, but that won't prevent them from making an embarrassingly public spectacle out of it.

spoonbill

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Originally posted by sgrizzle

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Originally posted by TheArtist

Jazmos? Never heard of them till this thread.



Jazmo's = Bourbon Street Cafe (they got bought out or something)



Actually it's kinda sad.  They were on the decline so they hired a Marketing firm to "re-brand" them.  Rather than fix the food quality problems.  The "firm" re-branded them as Jazmo's and reccomended menu changes, price changes and a whole new look that frankly confused people.  It was a disaster.

Conan71

Yeah, makes a lot of sense.  Instead of correcting food problems, let's go out and spend $30K to re-brand the place and change all the signage.  Brilliant business decision.
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mr.jaynes

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Originally posted by TheArtist

Had a friend take a date to Tuccis last week. Said it was not that good, expensive and the wait staff were stuck up and snobby.


On my visits back to Tulsa some years back, I'd been taken to Tucci's. The food was good, worth waiting for, and I'd go back for that, don't get me wrong. But yes, the wait staff was possessed of an elitist 'tude in some respects, tho' I think it was a matter of them perceiving their work as wait staff as less of an occupation and more like as a lucrative hobby.

Kashmir

We've been to Tucci's for anniversary stuff, It's been good for me but for sure things in any restaurant can vary. The pizza was yum. They have a yummy Belini, so after one of those everyone is alright with me.  I had read a review here (back when I was a lurker) on Redrock Canyon Grill that was very positive and when we went, the server was super snotty and forgot stuff.  However, I complained and got sent a most excellent giftcard. So I will go back!  

It is a shame about Bourbon Street.  Is the one in OKC crappy now too? I had my first Pina Colada there!

  [8D]

danno

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The "original" St. Michael's Alley was open back in the '70's.


While this is true, St. Mikes was opened as early as 1960, and many old school tulsans would argue that the restaurant's 'heyday' would have been the 60's and early 70's. For those of you that do not know, St. Michaels Alley is now closed. I worked there for about 3 years, and let me tell you all the real reasons that St. Mike's is no more: changing trends in dining and the general "fickle" nature of tulsa. The place was almost impossible to find unless you knew where and what it was, and many tulsans that enjoyed going to St. Mikes in the 60's and 70's moved away from Tulsa in the 80's. The younger generation had no idea that the restaurant even existed, so the large percentage of clientele consisted of regulars, who were for the most part in the 50-75 age range. In March '06, the statewide smoking ban almost totally eliminated our happy hour/drinking crowd. A huge percentage of our patrons were smokers. Many people would say that they would come in more often if we were non smoking. Well I guess they lied because business dropped significantly. The yuppie crowd would not embrace St. Mikes since it did not have a menu that was a carbon copy of The Brooke. I even heard that many people boycotted the restuarant because it was gay owned and operated for years, which is ridiculous. When the restuarant changed hands, the food became fancier, and more expensive. Guess what happened? Nobody wanted it. All the yuppies that requested inventive new dishes were nowhere to be found, and the regulars complained about the price and stuck with our old menu items like white chili and charburgers. With a small restaurant like St. Mikes, simplicity is key. Tulsa diners were no longer satisfied with the simple menu of stuffed mushrooms, reuben sandwiches, and one of the best ribeyes in town. People wanted the option of a $60 dollar bottle of wine, but would order a $2 beer. Others would want the option of a $20 stuffed pork chop (which was delicious), but knew from the second they walked in that they were only going to buy a $6 pastrami sandwich. It is so sad that the restaurant closed, but it is no surprise to me. With the exception of fast food, Tulsa is notorious for not accepting a restaurant for what it is. I'm sure that 2 more Outback Steakhouses will pop up in its place.

reign

Bourbon St Cafe has great owners, may need to get some of the old magic(managers) back? How do you feel about it and what needs to be done to put them back on the map?[?] Remember them being great a few years back, so what is lacking. Sorry, live out of town. Just would like some info. Do miss the red beans and rice with sausage, yum.

inteller

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Originally posted by reign

Bourbon St Cafe has great owners, may need to get some of the old magic(managers) back? How do you feel about it and what needs to be done to put them back on the map?[?] Remember them being great a few years back, so what is lacking. Sorry, live out of town. Just would like some info. Do miss the red beans and rice with sausage, yum.



place was a dump.  SO glad that joke of a restaurant closed.

really, they need to just tear that place down because without direct access to 71st, people won't go there.

BKDotCom

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Originally posted by inteller
place was a dump.  SO glad that joke of a restaurant closed.

really, they need to just tear that place down because with direct access to 71st, people won't go there.
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